Comments by Rimsonlight

I did consider writing a review about it for Dirty’s but I just couldn’t see one about being denied entry being long enough to be published. I did it find it very odd that they asked that question and they were the only club that did so of the couple I visited yesterday who knows maybe the bouncer could smell the perfume from the previous dancer I was with on me or something.

I actually really liked that club and had some vhm dances in there which is why I went to check out again tonight although the experience wasn’t nearly the same. To reiterate the last part of my review I was denied entry at another club by the bouncer because I told them I had just been at that other club personally I think it’s b.s. but thought it was pertinent to share.

Thanks for the suggestions! For now I’ll just go with what Papi and John recommended and instead of doing a comprehensive guide just focus on writing out general guidelines for newcomers. Going through my original post I can kind of split the recommendations into two categories. First is common sense guidelines which I feel people including myself are prone to break as well as things that are good to keep reminding yourself. Going down the list these would be: Set a budget and stick to it (if you can’t trust yourself with cards leave them in your car or at home), be clean and try to smell pleasant when you go to a club, don’t be a jackass or a pushover, remind yourself that this is a business the strippers are there to get your money ideally by giving you a good time, if you’re at a club that has stage side seating where a dancer does her routine make sure to tip her a couple of dollars if you’re going to sit at those seats, make sure you either explicitly or implicitly get a dancers before trying something, don’t get drunk, don’t think with your dick and tip the bartender and waiter/waitress the same way you would at any other place. Keep track of your stuff it’s a good idea to check you phone, wallet, cash any time you’re moving around the club it’s better to be safe than to find out later on you forgot something or someone stole it from you. If you’re going to a club that has had recent reports of theft either leave your important items in the car or at home. Second category is a bit more subjective these include: Proper attire: Generally you should go with what your comfortable with. Keep in mind though that some clubs enforce a dress code so they might not let you in if you’re wearing ratty clothes or sweats or basketball shorts they might not let you in. Make sure to check with the club beforehand or play it safe and wear nicer stuff don’t overdue it with a suit unless it’s your normal attire. Also as for jeans or any pants or shorts that are a coarser material a dancer might end up giving a lesser contact lap dance if you’re wearing this because it’s uncomfortable for her. When you’re first starting off some of the best ways to avoid getting ripped off is to avoid going to high end rooms like the champagne rooms until you learn to get a good feel for the dancers this way you don’t blow through your budget immediately and end up leaving early with a bad taste in your mouth. Experiment first with either floor dances or dances in the vip area which are usually around $20-$30 per dance or something like $100 for a set amount of songs or time. Usually it’s a good idea to avoid dancers who come up to you and just ask “wanna dance” immediately more likely than not they’ll give you mediocre performance. If a dancer actually takes the time to pretend to be interested in you there’s a better chance that she’ll make more of an effort if you do buy a dance from her, she still might be bad dancer so you could still end up disappointed but I think you’ll have better odds with a dancer like that. Tipping is never required for dances even if she asks or demands one. Do it at your own volition, there are veterans that won’t tip on principle unless they go beyond expectations. Finally I would like to add a section on getting the attention of a dancer you like. In my experience the easiest way is to simply just go up to her and letting her know that you’re interested in getting a dance from her she might be busy at the moment but more often than not she’ll try to find you sooner or later. If she’s dancing on the stage I’ll usually tip her a five and let her know I’m interested. Sometimes when they’re walking around all you need to do is make eye contact and smile and more often than not they’ll come over to you. Don’t get upset if she never comes though sometimes they’ll get scooped by a regular or a whale and that’s just the way it goes. One last part is don’t be reluctant to cut your losses or leave early if you’re just not feeling it. Let me know if this looks better and if anything should be modified, added or removed. Also I do think that a follow up article would be useful that would be comprised of advice for those of us who have moved onto doing this as hobby. Things to include would be tips on common hustles to be aware of and how to stop them such as over-counting, not falling for SS, etc. Also tips on how to generally increase success rates in the club such as what signs to pick up on, becoming a regular (it’s pros and cons) and other stuff along those lines. Another part could include pitfalls to avoid such as not letting your hobby get out of hand and ruin your savings and relationships, giving out too much information (to the dancers or posting in public on this site), trying to figure out if you have more than just a client/dancer relationship and whatever else would fall into this category. I’m still fairly new to this stage so I probably wouldn’t be very good for this part.

Subraman: I'm glad you commented since that article of yours along with along with some of of the other advice I've seen you give really influenced me and what I wrote. I agree about the part of still bringing in your normal wallet precisely so that you can still use your cards outside of the club. I'll make sure to put a bigger emphasis on the only cash you should have in the club is the amount you plan to spend and to never use the in club ATM and if you are considering using it that's when you should use the emergency fund. As for the tipping the bartender/waitress I also agree that you should tip around what you normally would in bar. The way I worded it was for a single drink where a $1-$2 tip would be appropriate but making it more generic would be better. I do have a different view point than you when it comes to the dances, the way I see it you are getting a personal service the same way a bartender or waiter/waitress would give you so I apply a modified version of that tipping scale i.e terrible service=not tip, service that leave you satisfied=small tip, service that goes above and beyond= bigger tip. I would like to make this more universal so if you see any other places where I placed bias feel free to point them out I appreciate the criticism. One thing I did notice is that I wrote this from more of a "lone wolf" club experience which is what I normally do and I'll see if i can make it more inclusive from a group perspective as well. Countryman and MisterWonderful: I originally started going through the discussions and articles with the intent of gathering as much information for my own HK trip that I'm planning at the end of September. I would like to thank the both of you in that regard since I've been able to get a lot of useful from your posts on that subject. I wanted to make sure to start off with emphasizing that research should be the first thing you do so that you can know what to expect from your local club scene. If you're somewhere like KY where it's apparently I would probably quickly come to the conclusion that it's better to go elsewhere. Although with this first part the focus is more on the first couple of experiences traveling to a different country would probably be more appropriate for the second part. Georgmicrodong: Thanks for pointing that out! I wrote this as a rough draft and I proofread it before posting to make sure it makes sense but overlooked that difference. I think it flows better if I split it up as Parts 1-5 instead of steps 1-5 Overall I'm very grateful for all of you posters since your insight has been very helpful. Part of the reason why I want to put this together is because there is a lot of good information spread throughout this from dancers perspectives, to common mistakes, to successful tactics and I figured it would be really useful to put as much of together as possible. Another way of looking at the way I think the information should be broken down is basically three sections: Section 1: A PL Introduction: Focus is on what do for your first couple of visits Section 2: Maximizing the PL Experience: Focus on sharing information, successful tactics, hustles to look out for ect. Section 3: The PL Lifestyle: Some of the benefits and pitfalls of doing this long term. "Dating" a stripper, managing the lifestyle, leading a double life (making sure SO doesn't find out) stuff along that nature. Thanks for the current criticism, feedback and suggestions I look forward to seeing more.

You could negotiate to go up to the room for just a HJ and probably end up with a better experience than in the private dance area.

Well it wasn’t great since it’s summer in Phoenix and even after midnight it’s still in the 90’s but I grew up in so I definitely prefer that over the 40 degree weather lol. Now that I’ve had a day to cool off I’ve had time to analyze the situation better and the puncture was done in a very sneaky and petty way that there’s a good chance that the security guy wouldn’t have noticed it.

Thanks for the heads up! I can’t really confirm if her name was Jordan but with both of the strippers the talking was kept to a minimum which actually made it more of a pleasant experience. I’ll make more of an effort to remember names, since now that I’ve read other reviews I can see why that’s important information to pass on.