Spewbie
Comments by Spewbie
discussion comment
18 years ago
RomanticLover
What you consider "overvalue", others may consider reasonable or affordable.
Economics says that if the demand for a particular girl is high (for her limited time), she can charge a little more and make more money. If she charges too little, she will lose potential income. I'm not saying that stripperscharge too much or too little; I'm saying that what they charge is usually based on a balance between what they charge for their time and how much time they can get custys to pay for.
I would not consider stripping to be an easy job. It's tough on the dancer's body, emotions, and schedule. Girls are only able to work for a limited period of time (while their body still looks good and their joints still bend) - just like athletes who get paid big dollars in high-injury-risk sports.
Many girls look at men with an altered perception after dancing (which is a long-term issue). Girls (usually) have to pay stage fees (a fee to dance at the club) and are required to work on slow days (with few customers) if they want to be able to work on busy days. Girls risk the embarrassment of being seen by family and/or friends. Also, stripping limits options for other careers as the general public does not usually sympathize with the plight of a dancer (I would include you in this generalization).
Most girls can't overcome the embarrassment of showing their entire body to some stranger for nothing more than money; many girls never learn how to sell their performances and fail to make money. Stripping is not an easy job. It takes a lot of trial-and-error and sales skills for a girl to become successful.
Also, typically the club sets rates and the girls can negotiate a little, but they don't want to undercut their coworkers (at the same club).
You ask why strippers charge so much? The short answer is: because men will pay it.
discussion comment
18 years ago
RomanticLover
Does she have an obligation? If a waitress serves you, does she have an obligation to see you outside her restaurant if you ask her out?
A dancer is a person and she has free will. From my experience, girls pick who they want to be with (as opposed to the other way around) and many dancers don't want to date guys who come to their clubs.
A girl would probably have doubts about any relationship that started with her naked and the man fully clothed. From the very outset, the relationship is very awkward and there are complications. Then there is the whole psychological issue of girls only being exposed to the primal side of men... their opinion of our gender becomes skewed over time.
discussion comment
18 years ago
RomanticLover
I get the feeling that you're a troll RomanticLover.
A girls shouldn't complain to a custy about anything. It's bad sales because it's a turn-off.
On the other hand, just a hundred dollars for a 8 hour shift is not much money. Girls have many payouts, a stage fee, and are required to work known slow days for having the
"privilege" of working busy days. They have no benefits, they pay taxes as if they are self-employed. Expenses for a girl to keep her body in peak condition, hairless , and tanned is pretty expensive. A hundred dollars is a pitiful take-home on a busy night for an attractive girl who is good at dancing (the sales part).
You can't expect a girl to work naked in front of dozens of men for minimum wage. She could be sitting at any retail outlet and spend much less effort and expense doing so.
You are unfairly expecting strippers to live to a lower standard of expectation when they work harder than the vast majority of the rest of the working population.
discussion comment
18 years ago
RomanticLover
"How much MONEY does a customer need to spend to get AFFECTION and INTIMACY from a stripper?"
Affection and true intimacy come without money. If you are looking for it from someone you are paying, you are driving up a one-way road. Throwing more money at someone does not make them want to be more affectionate with you... it makes them want to take advantage of your desire of affection and intimacy.
Girls are not turned on by dancing for an undesirable man. Throwing more money at them satiates their greed, not their lust. If you are expecting money to bring you affection and intimacy, you are going to be sorely dissapointed (and strapped for cash).