Houston SC scene sucks now

@AllWeeksAreMine @jusflor in another thread some claimed that extras are available very cheap in houston? So is it just particular clubs that are overpriced, or the non latinas that are overpriced or something else

@rickthehick Well, "very cheap" is all relevant to one's own experience and pricing structure, but I tend to think it's reasonable compared to other US clubs. I do know it's:

• Very available. In some clubs it seems to be offered by almost every dancer.
• Very negotiable. Yeah, some dancers want double what you would expect, but that's free enterprise. One can always decline.
• It is club dependent. After a few visits one can determine if there will be any value propositions. Some clubs take their cut of a VIP dance/area for every dance, and that drives the price up. I avoid that.
• The huge influx of Cubans and their love of capitalism has provided better rates.
• Very supply & demand oriented. Shift change & end of night are great times to negotiate.
• Being a frequent customer of the same club (a regular) has huge advantages if you are a known, safe entity who is respectful (and spends money). You won't be overcharged, that's for sure.

I find Houston prices better than many of the other clubs I have gone to (such as Florida, LV, NO, the Northeast)

@AllWeeksAreMine thanks for the very detailed and useful post, mi friend…

Im curious, by NO did you mean new orleans?

Also, good to hear that extras are widely available in houston- im curious, are GFE extras also widely available with the cubans and latinas out there? Things like daty, kissing lip to lip/tongue kissing, bbbj- are those widely available amongst the latinas

@AllWeeksAreMine mi friend

@rickthehick Yes, NO is New Orleans (sorry about that; I was lazy).

I don't think it is widely available, but it exists. Definitely with the Cubans and Latinas. However, I think they are all hesitant unless they get to know the guy. Being a regular or a known entity helps, that's for certain. They are concerned about safety and cleanliness, so the "cleaner" you look and act, the better your chances. Or money. Lots of money.

And from the guy's point of view, you want to know and trust the girl. Do you want to be kissing some dancer who just did a bbbj on a guy who looks like he sleeps there? That's always my worry.

@AllWeeksAreMine so you think the gfe extras are rarer, dancers are a lot more selective on gfe extras? And yes but i assumed they do bbbj with most clients if they are doing it with me. I assume they do bbbj with everyone but still kiss them anyway. My thinking is the mouth and saliva cleans everything up anyway

@rickthehick Form where I go, yess; the dancers are more cautious.

Um, saliva doesn't clean anything. It transmits lol

@Someguyontheinternet I agree the state of the US SC is on the decline. I agree that a great deal of it sucks. However, it is not every club. And I don't have a low bar. I have my go-to places which have never disappointed me in my 40 years of SCs. But, in general, it is harder to find a great SC; thus, everyone's standard is collectively dropping. You are right about that.

I think one of the problems is that it seems almost every woman thinks she can be a stripper. I see this a lot in Houston with the Cubans. One will convince her friends to dance and all they do is get on the stage and walk around the pole in a circle, chewing gum and looking incredibly bored. I want to scream, "Do something! Anything!" Quality of the entertainment has gone down with the quality of the girls.

The decline is inevitable. It looks like a dying entity. It will take a while longer, and I will die along with it. I am not going to get angry or frustrated and will just do my best to continue to support it. There are still plenty of great clubs and I am going to enjoy the ride for as long as I can...

@AllWeeksAreMine Clubs won’t die entirely as long as men can still get boners. At this point I almost welcome a thinning of the herd in terms of shitty clubs closing. There is nothing of value lost when a lousy clubs goes out of business. It’s damn tragedy when a good club closes down or gets bought out by some SC cartel like Rick's.

I think the any girl can be dancers thing is just clubs lowering the standard of hiring so they can get a larger cut of what girls make. And yes some girls are simply not cut out for this trade. I was at a club recently that gets talked about on this site a ton and is always in like the top 40 clubs. My jaw dropped at how far the talent had fallen off. I was incredulous. Needless to say I bought a beer and then peaced out.

If the talent goes to shit than people are much less inclined to open their wallets which means over time the total revenue generated by the club shrinks. The pie definitely ain’t getting any bigger if people decide the product being offered is not up to some minimum standards.

Onlyfans hoovered up some of the best talent. I hope this trend reverses. Also, it seems that most strip club proprietors and strippers aren’t exactly playing the long game. They are there to take your money as fast as possible and by any means necessary as opposed to building a loyal client base.

@AllWeeksAreMine fair points mi friend but, the poor effort stage shows dont matter when it comes to the extras and private rooms right?

@Someguyontheinternet I agree 100%. Maybe a thinning of the herd is best. But I am worried. New England, for example, used to have a few - not a lot - of really good clubs. Now it's horrible. Truly awful. The thinning of the herd there left the sickest cows.

Excellent points on OnlyFans and short-term gains. That makes sense to me.

@rickthehick A fair point. Some girls are simply there to make money via private (some privileged dancers never take the stage).

However, I like the stage work. I like to see the girls I haven't seen before "advertise" on the stage. And this is just me, but when I go to a club I love to sit back for a while with my drink(s), enjoying the view. And if my view is just standing around looking at her phone; well, that bores me. And maybe it is an indication that their private work is just as sad. As the saying goes, "you never get a second chance to make a first good impression."

@AllWeeksAreMine Hate to be that guy but I think this trend isn’t just relegated to New England. I have been to a ton of New England clubs and the only club left that offers some decent value is Boardroom in Brockton.

Other than that one club the juice has not been worth the squeeze. Desire and Foxy Lady which are purportedly great seem to be pretty lackluster every time I have visited.

I was recently in Texas and went to the famed Baby Dolls Dallas and I was not terribly impressed.

South Florida is probably the only place that’s still alright, but from what I understand it has taken a huge hit as well.

So I think what we are seeing is a national trend.

@Someguyontheinternet Only fans absolutely killed the SC scene, why would the hottest girls go the the SC when they can make orders of magnitude more money without having creepy monger's man handle them at the club? I now of girls on OF getting new cars from their favorite clients/SDs. SC can't compete with this to attract top talent so they water down the talent pool (e.g. older and fatter) that would never have been allowed on the premises let alone work there even a decade ago..

@jusflor The top top girls can make bank on OF. Those were the ones who got in on the ground floor and built a huge following early on. The sad irony is those girls aren't even that attractive, at least not to me. But that is beside the point.

OF markets a millionaire lifestyle to new girls joining the platform to sucker them in. From what I have read the overwhelming majority of girls are making nowhere near that. Its one giant Ponzi scheme.

Basically they can work some normie vanilla civilian job and get some supplemental income from OnlyFans like $300-$700 dollars extra per month. Which is not a lot but it provides some extra spending cash. Also all of that content and photos is out there on the web forever. Whereas if a girl dances in a club everything, at least in theory, stays within the confines of the club.

As far girls getting huge sums of cash and cars from there loyal simps I am sure that it has happened but that is not the norm. Every girl including the really hot ones is not getting a new Range Rover for posting pussy pics on OF.

Just out of curiosity do you know these girls personally who were gifted cars, or large sums of cash or is this something you heard anecdotally via the internet?

@Someguyontheinternet I know of a very attractive girl in Houston that got a toyota camry, not a range rover but hey it's a new car still.

@sfrsox as the money debases so does the quality of everything else.

@jusflor At this point I almost welcome the inevitable monetary collapse. Will it be painful for a lot of people? fuck yeah! But it allow for things to be rebuilt, hopefully a new better foundation be laid. The alternative is the powers that be keep kicking the can and everything just slowly degrades.