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2 weeks ago

Moving Closer To An OTC...

I made a previous post recently about getting back into this hobby after being away from it for months.

Along with meeting new dancers, I'm catching up with the previously acquainted.

Caught up with a dancer I had a rapport with, and she's happy to see me.

We do some dances. I opt for nude when I usually pay for topless. She's delightfully surprised.

I paid more than I have ever previously paid to her, including a $20 tip. It was worth it.

It was a hot time.

I can tell she consistently gets turned on during our dances. Her breathing is the give away.

Beyond just the lapdance action, I like talking to her. We're both pretty comfortable talking about sex, sexual experiences, sexual fantasies.

And I can get as descriptive and detailed as a Penthouse Forum letter, and she's receptive.

I tell her about a sexual fantasy, a threesome, me, her... and another man, but I would not do anything with him, like I would with her. ( It would be about doubling her pleasure and exhibitionism and voueryism.)

Secure enough in my sexual orientation to do this type of threesome.

I remark that there is nudity in Roman and Greek sculpture, and we're both comfortable with nudity.

I tell her details of the fantasy...

Her sucking his dick while I'm fucking her from behind, pumping away in her pussy. He would cum on her tits and rub it around, and I would then shoot the pop shot on her back and then give her a massage with my cum.

I tell her that me and the other guy would take turns fucking her, so she would have two cocks to play with all night long.

She's smiling.

I later ask her what she would do with my dick. She said she would want it in her pussy, and she would want me to lick her pussy before that.

I described in detail how I would go down on her.

When we first met, I asked for her number, and I was denied. However, this time, I presented my phone and told her tonight would be the right time for her to put her number in my phone, and she did.

It's like a door that was previously shut had been opened.

As I'm getting ready to exit the lapdance area, I see another dancer and customer. I tell her I like watching.

She then tells me she used to go to a swingers club, and she would suggest it to her friends "if nothing more than for the visual." Yes, she's definitely hyper sexual.

I approach this situation being both hopeful, yet skeptical.

When I was new to this, and before I would check out this forum regularly, I was led on a wild goose chase for almost a year, which resulted in no extras action.

I learned from that mistake.

With this particular dancer, I think she plays it by the rules at the club, but I have a hunch that she meets with selected customers for OTC.

I saw her make out with a guy in the front room before.

I find out later he's a big spender.

Saw her tell a different dude "I'll see you later," and there was a suggestive subtext to it. You could hear it in her voice.

I'm hopeful, yet skeptical, that I am one step closer to an OTC with her.

Any thoughts?

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ilbbaicnl
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FRMOS, good to hear that SJG has still got his mojo working.

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gSteph
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Maybe . . . The future will tell . . . Good luck 👍

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Rod84
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Re: "I'm hopeful, yet skeptical, that I am one step closer to an OTC with her."

I don't get why you're skeptical? Many girls don't give their number out on the first go-'round in the club. Doesn't mean they're not OTC-friendly, just needing to build a little upfront trust and rapport beforehand.

After all your conversation, time in the club, discussion of sexual interests, and now having her number, you're there, man. This is your time to lead - Have a couple OTC ideas in mind (Lunch/dinner beforehand? Just drinks? An hour or two, or overnight? Etc), know your budget, pick a decent hotel, and make your proposal.

Oh, and of course tell us how it goes... 😉

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WOODDR2
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Majority of dancers (I'm sawing more than half, could be 51% or more) will do OTC if the price is right for them. While most will say no they don't do that. Sometimes they want to know you better to know they'll be safe and you're not some psychopath. Most will think they will not do OTC, until so.eone they know and like (and can trust most importantly) offers them an amount they might not have thought was possible.

There's a couple of ladies that have said no in the past and I knew they were really not the type to offer OTC, but when I've up my offer (probably too much for most guys to offer), I've turned that no into a yes.

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CJKent_band
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@M_Scorpio_LFK I will play along and comment on your discussion.

You wrote and I quote:

“I can tell she consistently gets turned on during our dances. Her breathing is the give away.”

You remind me of a Seinfeld episode

Episode: "The Mango" (1993). Context: Elaine admits to faking her orgasms with Jerry throughout their entire relationship.

Jerry: You faked with me? Elaine: Yeah. Jerry: You faked it? Elaine: I faked it. Jerry: That whole thing, the whole production, it was all an act. Elaine: Not bad, huh? Jerry: What about the breathing? The panting, the moaning, the screaming? Elaine: Fake, fake, fake, fake. Jerry: I'm stunned. I'm shocked. How many times did you do this? Elaine: All the time!

m.youtube.com

Clearly you are unaware of a lot things regarding human sexuality, I blame our American Educational System and our American “Puritanical” Society.

You clearly get your sexual information from porn. The homo erotic sexual “fantasy” you describe is obviously from watching porn videos.

In any case, I don’t think you are “Moving Closer To An OTC”

Every single person that has ever lived has lived a life like no other person that has ever lived.

Your favorite stripper life experience is completely unique, and her relationship with anyone else is unique too.

Having OTC with a stripper comes down to she believing that she will be safe, unharmed, and that she will be well rewarded for her time, companionship.

You should treat the OTC as a business transaction, treat the girl as business partner that you want to build a long-term trustworthy relationship with.

Clear communication and clear specific expectations are needed.

Discus boundaries, safe words, time limit, positions, like you where to shoot a porn scene.

Prepare a script if you want, to make sure you and the girl are in the same page.

Talk to her and make an arrangement, set a date, an a place and get her to say yes or not so you can move on.

And remember Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

Let’s be careful out there

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Whiskers13!
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IME,don't expect her to want dinner or shopping. They'll dedicate a couple of hours to you. You are alredy in client zone, so unless you worm your way into the situationship zone, which likely would take a bit more effort, she prob doesn't wan to be out in public with you (not offense, just bidnis). I used to offer shopping, but was always turned down for cash.
Again, IME, it's been $600-$1000 for 1-2 hours, although no one is setting a stopwatch. "When can I see you away from this place" seems to work just fine. It's about 50/50 on girls that take me up on the offer the first time I make it, but I usually don't offer the first time I meet them.
THere were a couple that turned me down several times, them one day just said YES. At the end of our LDs, I'd kept saying, "WHenver you want, the offer still stands" Along the way I hint at how I had to muster up courage to ask them blahblahblah, just so they don't think I'm assembling a harem, which I was. I also throw in how it would be great to find someone I'm comfortable and secure with "so I don't have to come back to this place", implying a suger-ship. Girls dig the steady income. It ends up being steady for a few cracks, then onwards and upwards!

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ilbbaicnl
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tl;dr Cuban-deprivation is a terrible thing.

Where in the US is this?

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