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I was reading a news article a few years back that referred to drunk driving as a favorite 'American pastime'. The article went on to complain how along road shoulders and ditches there were so many discarded beer cans, liquor bottles, nips, and other alcoholic beverage containers. I have done Adopt A Highway before and can attest to that.

I think drinking and driving is pretty normal in the upper Midwest. There are a lot of people of German ancestry and drinking is just part of the culture. South Dakota has the highest number of DUI's per capita, followed by North Dakota. Minnesota and Wisconsin are also heavy drinking states. Wisconsin has the most bars per capita. So you would think these areas where drunk driving is practically a sport would have the most drunk driving fatalities? Not true. It looks as though areas with high Hispanic populations have the most drunk driving fatalities per capita. In fact, there is not a single data point on the below chart in South Dakota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, or Indiana. I think certain people can manage to drive drunk without harming others, while for other groups the 0.08 is probably too lenient a standard.

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I'd agree with that. Anyone who lives in a city with a major Hispanic culture has experienced just how badly they drive and how often they drive drunk. That's not racist, it's fact. Passing through Orlando, Miami, and places nearby Naples or Fort Myers with the largest immigrant populations have the highest amount of fatal traffic incidents. However, it is never possible that this nation can have two sets of laws divided by race. Even if it's backed by science, it is better to change the law for all to address the lowest common denominator. Or kick out all the illegals.

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I find it interesting to note they some of the upper Midwest states - Wisconsin, North & South Dakota - often are ranked as some of the highest drinking states per capita, yet do not appear on this chart. Something can be said for hibernating at home in the winter.

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Gammanu most of those are redneck areas 🤡💩 your tinfoil hat is on too tight

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Jesus Christ drunk Mexicans need to chill the fuck out

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I don’t know how this correlates to drunk driving, but Florida does not have state vehicle inspections and as a result the immigrant population drive the crappiest, unsafe piece of shit cars that lead to a lot of wrecks. And that’s when you find out that the immigrant driver of a piece of shit car with bald tires and bad brakes who just ran into you does not have insurance or a pot to piss in.

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Crazy blaming latinos for redneck problems while chasing latina hookers 🤡💩

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Icey
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Racist bitches

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Icey but does Gammanu even chase the latina hookers?

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"certain people can manage to drive drunk without harming other"
Nope.

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Uber/Lyft has made getting home when you’ve had too much to drink extremely easy in communities where cabs are the norm.

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I've lived all of my 58 years in an urban area of New Jersey. Been driving fucked up since high school. I usually don't overdo it too much, but there's been probably a dozen times I don't even remember coming home, and can't count how many times I parked and turned off the car, then breathed a sigh of relief that I made it home without any incident. Once I woke up the next morning with my face on the pavement. As I got my bearings, I realized my feet were still in the car. I had literally crawled halfway out and then passed out right there. Never had an accident or got a DUI. Once I got pulled over when I wasn't even drinking. Cop claimed I had my high beams on, which was bullshit because I never turn my high beams on, not ever. He gave me the whole drunk test, walk the line, touch your nose, alphabet backwards, all that shit. Cop said I appeared "right on the borderline" and how would I feel about taking a breathalyzer. I said give it to me right now. I don't want to wait until we get down to the station because my drunk might wear off by then. He was like, okay, I'm gonna let you go with a warning. Yeah, thanks a lot asshole.

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In North and South Dakota most dui deaths are native American. The reservations have about a 40% rate of alcoholism and the rural areas mean people drive a long way back from the bar.

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About 30 years ago I lived in a small city of about 35,000 people. Lots of low skill assembly jobs for the transportation industry. So that town was at ground zero for one of the first heavy waves of immigration from Mexico.

But the city still had a small town feel to it. Still had a local newspaper that actually published a crime log. All DUI arrests and sentences were printed. So there’s printed empirical evidence that backs up gammanu’s claim. Conservatively, 85% of the names for DUI and driving without a license were Hispanic.

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The single biggest lie foisted by the fake media on the public: Illegal immigrants commit less crimes than native born. First off, yeah, 94% of the populace would commit more. Two no one keeps track. There is not stat, anywhere. No one ever citesa source, no one knows. Just like the lie mist bankruptcies are caused by medical bills when about 98% are caused by credit cards, too much house and too much car. Illegals and those supporting them are a cancer on this country.

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===> "Florida does not have state vehicle inspections "

@Iknow: You say this like it's a bad thing. It's elitist nanny state bullshit which places the greatest burdens on our poorest citizens. This, along with onerous excise taxes (for those who don't know, annual property taxes levied on cars by cities and towns in many nanny states) are why so many people end up driving unregistered vehicles in these states. What made it even worse were the so-called vehicle inspection stations with sleazy mechanics who would hold people up for additional repairs at the risk of not passing them.

When I moved down to Florida from the northeast over a decade ago, escaping all of this nonsense was like a breath of fresh air. I pay a couple of hundred bucks online every two years to renew my tags and that is that. Ditching state income taxes was an even bigger treat.

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I’ve cut way way way back on drunk driving. One day your luck is gonna run out and it will be a big mess…… and I have been lucky.

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@RD
Lack of standards is one reason the state of Florida has among the most expensive insurance markets in the country. I know nanny state yada yada crapola, but there is a valid reason for necessary state regulation.

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^The day one of the local illegals shows up in court for traffic charges, with a valid inspection sticker, will be a first. Yesterday I saw a chaming future democrat from Brazil gets his 6th C.W.O.F. on unregistered insured. In Singapore he'd have gotten 40 lashes the first time and never done it again.

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^ Let them crack down on unlicensed, uninsured, drivers, and if they’re illegal aliens punish them and send them back.
Down here in Florida the jalopies on the road, that are unsafe to drive need to be removed immediately, not to mention the pickup trucks on I95, with unsecured loads that cause debris to litter the roadway and fly into cars causing crashes, need to be addressed by the police. I’ve seen D. U. I. checkpoints where the cops ignore pickup trucks with all types of unsecured crap in the truck bed, even remember a checkpoint in Volusia county where the driver had a bunch of young kids in the pickup bed, allowed to proceed. Seems to me that some regulation is badly needed, and the few regulations that exist are poorly enforced.

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@25: Hogwash. I pay peanuts for my auto insurance, far less than my family members pay in the northeast. And even if it were so, I'd propose that the right answer would be to scrap government mandated auto insurance rather than institute inspections.

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^ Down here in Florida you’d be paying over $2500 a year for that Subaru that you drive.
Scrap government mandated auto insurance, that’s the stupidest statement evah.

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Years ago we had vehicle inspections, and then emissions testing in Florida. I think they ended some time in the 1990’s. Yes, I hated having to get my cars inspected, and I hated having to buy new tires when I thought there was still plenty of tread left, but now having seen the alternative, I would say that the burden, cost, and and hassle of inspections is preferable to allowing people to drive unsafe pieces of shit on the highway, where they are a hazard to others.
@Rick - who do you have your insurance with? I’m paying > $10K per year for 3 cars in MiamiDade county.

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I pay 1700 for my car in Mass. Had I not flipped a rental car in 2024 it would have been about 1350., but I lost a lifetime of good driver credits.

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I think the high cost of car insurance in Florida is due to the number of uninsured drivers. Also, a lot of cars get stolen, and are packed away in shipping containers and out of the country before the owners know they’re gone.

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I paid $1,500 in car insurance last year. Speeding ticket on the NY Thruway over Thanksgiving weekend 2020 is the gift that keeps on giving, at least for another year and a half.
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Everyone thinks they're that one guy that can safely drive drunk, until they cripple someone (or themselves).

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Here in New Jersey, I have a perfect driving record. Last ticket was like 12 years ago, maybe longer, I can't even remember. I pay $2,427 a year for my 2022 WRX. (Thanks Skibum, the car is fuckin sick, in a good way) It costs another 1,084 for my Harley, which I only drive about 3,000 miles a year.

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I don't have a perfect driving record. in the past I've definitely have had a Lead Foot.

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