MAGA: Revolution, Counter-Revolution, or Restoration?

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mogul1985
Victor David Hanson https://x.com/elonmusk/status/…

America has just allowed Global Progressive Socialism that has been feathered in over the past 50 years, including Nixon's unfettered opening to China/CCP. We had the Cold War with the USSR yet the CCP was OK? Yeah, dirt cheap labor and manufacturing was the goal.

As long as people have their TikTok, Netflex, gov't "free stuff", they are just sheeple not paying attention. Yeah, what Trump is doing over the next 4 years is going to be brutal on all the Dem Karens. Argentina is doing pretty good after it's changes. And I'm sure some here will find reasons it will fail in time.

We'll see where we get in 4 years. If salaries and employment improves with lower taxes, better GDP, better education (this will take a long time to see the results), less crime, and people just see how better life is, the Dem Party will have a very tough time. Like I said, we'll see. As Carville, the Ragin' Cajun, said in 1992 "It's the economy, Stupid", and holds true today.

And, or new Deputy FBI Director. I really wanted Dan Bongino to be Director of USSS. https://x.com/SaltyGoat17/stat…

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jaybud999
13 days ago
Good luck. I'll see you back here in four years to compare numbers.

And again, I wish President Trump (see that, that's showing respect to the position...even if you think the person filling the position is unqualified), his appointees, and policies that I do support....success.

This first month has been.....interesting......
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Puddy Tat
13 days ago
VDH is great, but it takes a long time to turn around a ship of this size.
Lots of people on the take (or at least mistakenly receiving payments) and they all have a seat at the table.
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mogul1985
13 days ago
"Mistakenly" Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Muddy
13 days ago
Big VDH fan
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gammanu95
12 days ago
VDH really has his shit together. A great American political analyst.

My meager (comparatively) thoughts:
Bongino was sent to the FBI instead of the USSS specifically because he is an outsider. He has plenty of law enforcement and federal experience. He's walking away from a 7-figure income with his podcast and media company just to serve his country again.

I recently saw a video where he very passionately and specifically explained why he is not going to forget or walk away from the Russian collusion hoax, the Hunter Biden laptop lies, or Adam Schiff's perjury. He wants justice and a reckoning. Just like I want. Leftists committed fraud against the American people in order to influence the outcome of a presidential election. Leftists endangered diplomatic and military relations with a global nuclear power to perpetuate a fraud. We need to get to the truth of who knew what and when did they know it. Then they must be prosecuted for their crimes in a court of law. If they received a pardon from Joe Biden then he can be tried and, if convicted, serve their time for them.
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skibum609
12 days ago
^ Revenge shouldn't be part of one's resume. It serves no purpose. Ss Confucious said: "Before one embarks upon a journey of revenge, he must first dig two graves".
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gammanu95
12 days ago
I never said anyone needed revenge. What I said, what Bongino said, what VDH and other conservatives and Republicans have said is that America needs justice. A massive fraud, with global geopolitical ramifications has been committed. It needs to be investigated, and prosecuted where crimes are determined to have been committed.
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jaybud999
12 days ago
Damn Gumaman, you are WAY fucked up. It's like you can only turn your head one way.
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mogul1985
12 days ago
@jaybud999: so you think the past 50 years of Biden corruption should just be "move on, he's too old?" Whitey Bulger was 84 when they locked his ass up. If the DoJ won't prosecute Biden, the icing on the cake will be for Bondi releasing the audio (and if there is video) of Hur's interview of Biden on Rumble.

I fault Congress 100% for all DOGE is uncovering, and so far it's just the tip of an iceberg. Congress has been status quo for many decades. Congress ignores the IG and the GAO reports so they can get re-elected: can't cut that budget item out of MY district!

@gammanu95: Good point on Bongino & USSS. Also, when Harris/Biden lovers, like Jaybud999 for example, have no solids, they just insult. Just another cute Karen.

I've followed VDH for a very long time. The other I follow is the All-In podcast.

I'm all about "Trust BUT VERIFY", and that is EXACTLY what Trump has DOGE doing. And that is why Dems are the ultimate Karen, plus they've proved they can't single, and these mini-rallies are funded by George Soros. Y'all can look it up like I did.

Can't wait until DOGE skulks thru petabytes of gov't unclassified email servers, more texts (recent NSA "porn" chat rooms, priceless load) and calls that are clearly not gov't business. And to put a bow on it, Bessent @Treasury has DOGE to an audit of IRS records to see if gov't workers are also working other gigs fulltime. I have no issues with side-hustles, however, if they are fulltime and there is hardly any gov't productivity, that's a problem.

If the Dems have nothing to be ashamed of, they should welcome DOGE, or are they just no better than Solyndra, WCOM and ENRON?
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mogul1985
12 days ago
Also, what Biden did during his 4 years of lawfare was avenging DJT beating Hillary Clinton, the anointed Dem who also lost out to Obama. What a piece of work. She needs a condo retreat with Jane Fonda and Joy Reid.
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jaybud999
12 days ago
@golum

What the fuck do any of my comments on this thread have anything to do with whitey bulger? I said I hope for the best, and that gumaman has high blood pressure. What is all your rambling for?
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skibum609
11 days ago
^What the fuck do your comments have to do with anything other than your continual infantile desire to be a little bitch?
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gammanu95
11 days ago
@mogul1985 brings up a great point about the left's need to punish Trump for winning in 2016. Unless the DoJ bureaucracy is cleaned out and the democrat party doctrine of lawfare removed from their playbook, I cannot imagine what sick plots they will employ the next time they control the White House or Congress. The Clintons should absolutely not be excluded from the investigation into the Russia collusion hoax and subsequent false impeachment charges. Somehow, they seem to wear more Teflon than John Gotti. Hilary lost out to Obama in 2008, but everyone knows that their secret meeting culminated in agreement that she drop out and support Barry, join his Cabinet as SecState, and be guaranteed the nomination in 2016. Bernie, not Hill, was the preference of the democrat base in 2016. Even though independent, by caucusing with the dems they put him under their thumb and forced him out for her. (The Republicans wanted to do the same thing to Trump, but the cooler heads in the party prevailed and awarded him the nomination.) As a puppet of the status quo military-industrial complex controlling the lobbyists in Washington and COO of Clinton, Inc., her presidency would have been an unfettered plundering of America's coffers to enrich those leftist beltway insiders at the expense of every human being on Earth - not just Americans.

I have a hard time deciding just how much guilt Biden carries for the disaster of his presidency. Was he just a demented old man eating ice cream and dodging the press, or was he fully endorsing the implementation of Obama's third-term agenda and allowing a shadow government to pull the strings? This is an important part of any pending investigation. Merrick Garland, Adam Schiff, Jack Smith - names which deserve historical infamy and to be the subject of every bombshell revelation headline until all of the hidden machinations which drove their dishonest, partisan agendas is fully brought to the light of day.

Again, I am an advocate for justice, not vengeance.
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gammanu95
11 days ago
It looks like skibum is calling mogul a little bitch, but I can safely assume some nitwit chose to share her complete ignorance in response to Mogul's comments. It was better when the comment thread at least showed there was a muted comment to maintain thread coherence while ignoring trolls.
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Puddy Tat
11 days ago
And now it looks like Comey's under investigation for trying to honey trap his way into the Trump campaign! This one's gonna be juicy.

Hey, Eric Swalwell gave secrets to communist China so he could nail some Asian tail.
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skibum609
11 days ago
^^I would never call Mogul anything negative. That was directed at another, your favorite, Jaybud.
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gammanu95
11 days ago
Lol, I've had that loser muted since his first post. He is to our varsity leftist trolls as a cub scout is to an Army Ranger.
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mogul1985
11 days ago
@Gammanu95 "It looks like skibum is calling mogul a little bitch," that was targeted to Jaybud999! I saw the reference. It's all good.

One thing I did just plain forget about: The Dems are ALSO still pissed as Hell that Bush beat Gore in 2020. Gore's motley crew carefully targeted their best chance for "hanging chads". They rolled the court dice and lost. Either a ballot is done properly or not, and if not it is not open to subjective interpretation. And this is the primary reason the Dems wanted to move to a computerized system. It certainly hasn't made voting more efficient nor has it garnered trust.

I remember going with my parents to the local elementary school. I was like 6 years old. I'd go in the booth, they'd pull the curtain and my dad would use switches on this big black panel. Once he was done, he'd pull the curtain lever to open the curtain and his votes would be tabulated, and returned to the middle (as I best as I recall) for the next person. And at the 11PM news, we had results. This was in Syracuse, NY where I grew up.

Our election process, at least for Federal positions - Congress and POTUS - needs to be trustworthy, and I'd hope same for local/state elections.
1) It shouldn't take over a month to get a final tally done.
2) Germany just did their election, voting, counting, results on the same day.
3) Other states like Florida have results the same day, why does it take CA, the 7th largest economy on Earth months to complete counting? AZ is just as bad.
4) computerized systems, plus connected to the Internet, are ripe for fraud especially the way people who file suit on results have no way to forensically audit them - disks/SSDs are not preserved as would be the case with paper ballots. It's very easy to lose trust, VERY hard to get it back.

Here in Colorado SoS, Griswald, managed to get the Legislature to put Ranked Choice Voting on the ballot in 2024. As Deep Blue as Colorado now is, voters rejected it - WHEW. CO has also perverted the Primary System where Independents can choose which Primary they want to vote in; join a "team", you don't get to choose during a Primary. Back in like 2020 Griswald managed to send voter registration cards to 50,000 Illegals. Her response, "Opps, my bad." In 2024 somehow voting server passwords were posted to the CO SOS website in an Excel spreadsheet:
1) What were passwords doing in an unencrypted/insecure data file/spreadsheet?
2) She never took responsibility, as aside from firing someone. She called it a "Mistake." She has the backing for a Legislature and knows nothing will ever happen to her.
3) Who and how does data get posted to a State website?

This is what happens when you have a super majority in the legislature and gov. I'm looking to relo in a year or 2. I've been here since 1-Aug-1983 when I can to work here for Digital Equipment Corp. The Peoples Republic of Greater Denver controls the State, and now Colorado Springs is going through the same cancer. I'm hoping the DoJ will get back on this: https://www.dailywire.com/news…
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gammanu95
11 days ago
Bush beat Gore in 2020?! Mandela effect?
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Puddy Tat
11 days ago
@mogul1985
Friend of mine recently left downtown Denver for the burbs, and from there to Idaho.
The prices, the illegals, the increasingly brazen homeless.

California talked about "making sure every vote was counted." Florida did that in a night!
In their blind rush to oppose and contradict everything Republicans stand for, Democrats have abandoned even the pretense of wanting election integrity. They took weeks and weeks for their count just to show they weren't like Republicans. Dafuq?

California's tax receipts, for years, have whipped from massive surplus to massive deficit, on capital gains from tech stocks. What happens when those companies relocate to Texas?

For as blue as Mass is, it seems like we avoid most of the utter batshit insanity that blue areas like California, New York, and Chicago fall into.
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mogul1985
11 days ago
@Puddy Tat: I'm trying to stay focused in the Midwest and a tad north so I get some decent seasonal changes, for easy driving to the East or West. I looked at ND, saw wicked expensive properties and then had that DUH moment with "it's a boom state for energy you idiot." SD is also interesting.

I do think CA is in for a really rough few years.

And yes, MA seems kind of like CO. You have this dense population, The Peoples Republic of Greater Boston, that runs the state from what I can tell like Greater Denver is the BOHICA of CO.

I have great memories as a little kid going to Cape Cod (Dennis Port to be exact) with my mom, younger brother and grandmother to visit my Great Aunt Pearl for 2 weeks in the Summer (are we there yet?). I have a few photos. Her home was around 2.500 sq ft, on .5 acre and a 3 minute walk to the ocean cove. Some summer I'd like to get a VRDO for like 2 or 3 months with my 2 dogs and do some Cape Cod League, "1950's style", baseball games plus a few New England dog shows with the Collie.
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mogul1985
11 days ago
@gammanu95: "Bush beat Gore in 2020?! Mandela effect?" Good one!

That was certainly a "Tastes Great/Less Filling", just a mere 5 Electoral Votes did it is all that mattered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
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gammanu95
11 days ago
And thus the Age of Democrat Party Lawfare. Litigation, and Election Denial began. Nixon wanted to do it when Kennedy stole the election in Chicago, but Ike would not let him do that to the country. The libs have no compunction about tearing this nation apart in their quest for power.
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longb
11 days ago
Our economy took off when Ronald Reagan pushed for open trade. The big winner under Trump will be China, who can offer everything the US sells at a lower price. Google Avatr EV, a better car, much better looking, better FSD, better range and a lower price than a Tesla. Why would Europe, Canada or Mexico every buy a tesla when they can buy an Avatr. Every company in the Mag 7 has very large international sales which will be killed by Trump. Look at his record, no american has been associated with more business failures, no bank will lend him money. He is a very good con man
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gammanu95
11 days ago
The unintended consequence of Reagan's trade policies is the loss of American jobs which led to our current troubles. Largely because it was mishandled and exacerbated by later Presidents. Trump is trying to help the nation by bringing those jobs back. I've never even heard of a Google Avatr, and suspect there is more hype than substance.
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mogul1985
11 days ago
@Gammanu95: I'd even go back to Nixon making nice with the CCP and opening it up.

@longb: Every Dem/liberal/progressive seems to forget that Socialism eventually fails, every time, and by failure I mean they go into a stagnate state with no growth and mediocrity. Which is exactly the goal of Socialism: everyone is the same, except the "Ruling Elite & their Oligarchs". These "Oligarchs" have zero concern for borders and county allegiance, just power and control. The USA was doing very well with #45; 2020 was a 100-year epidemic, and lying/propaganda about the Hunter Laptop contents and Biden, Inc had a major impact. Too many sheeple.

Bono/U2 is a BIG socialist, who admitted about 10 years ago that shoveling money to 3rd World countries is useless and Capitalism is the only solution, duh.

Post-WWII Germany The Marshall Plan was keeping Germany in severe poverty. It wasn't until it let up and allowed a little capitalism to "creep" in. Germany recovered and is #3 globally although 7x lower than the USA. Even Japan post-WWII is #4, and we fire bombed and dropped two A-bombs on it. Germany was pretty well roasted too.

Yeah, Trump has had bankruptcies and failures. And, he has had many successes like changing the skyline of NYC. And if he blows it the next 2 years, you'll get your Dem Congress and in 4 years probably Shapiro for POTUS. We'll see.

What I do know is the past 4 years has been a dumpster fire with a fake/useless POTUS that needed to have the 25thA done to him, 2 major wars, payoffs to crony supporters by 100s of Billions (no wonder the Dems fear DOGE) and $2T annual deficit spending with no end in sight that has is unsustainable.

It's like the Dems want this all to happen so they can create Amerika.
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skibum609
10 days ago
Puddy - I fyou hven't noticed that once Charlie Baker was gone MA was doomed under Healy and the racist clown Michelle "shame on you" Wu.
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gammanu95
10 days ago
@mogul - Absolutely the left wanted the worst situation for Amerika. "Never let a crisis go to waste", remember? How can you expand government power, quash free speech, and control people? The pandemic worked pretty well for that.

The DNC strong-armed social media and the press into censoring free speech about vaccine side effects, the inefficacy of masks, alternative treatments like Ivermectin (it's a standard antibiotic also used for parasite prevention and treatment), and more. They also forced the media into censoring truths like the Hunter Biden laptop, Joe Biden's well-known non compus mentus, and the truths about the fake impeachments. Later, used to controlling the media and shutting out the truth and facts, they claimed Joe was fine (until they couldn't hide it), Trump was a fascist, Kamala was always a great candidate (first to drop out in 2019) and ready to be POTUS (they were trying to get her off the ticket for the past year), and more. It was not until Biden imploded during the debate and Trump won his second term that they admitted it was all bullshit. Then they had to run over to the new administration and beg for forgiveness. It is my sincere hope that Trump forgives them, but does not forget. They have proven to be unworthy of wielding power over conversation and gatekeeping public truths. Something needs to be done to prevent lies of comparable scope and intent from being repeated in the future. Make it a crime definable under treason (still a capital offense) or something as a deterrence.
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mogul1985
10 days ago
^ This is exactly why the DoEducation needs to be ended, education sent back to the states and out of the hands of bureaucrats. When the FBI started to classify "uppity" parents at school board meetings by classifying them as "American Terrorists" a parental line was crossed. People don't take School Board elections seriously and fail to get to know who is running. The DoE was Carter's "contribution" to socialism.

In the late 1700s the Jesuits said (paraphrase) "Give us your children until they are 7 and we'll have them for life." It'll take a very long time to fix education.

Merriam-Webster: "Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition."

Sound like any group we know???? Hmmmmm? DEI? Woke? Lawfare?
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longb
10 days ago
States ser curriculum not the feds. The 3 main costs at the DOE are college scholarships, special education and low income schools. Lets break it down, college educated vote blue, that is the target. Special education, just not that many voters, low income schools, they really want to support private schools over public schools, rich kids go to private schools
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longb
10 days ago
The Avatr is a real car and is for more advanced than a tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
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mogul1985
10 days ago
Over 46 years, DOE has drive America's public ed from #1 to #40, #40 is last on the list. DOE has turned public ed into a Yugo. We spend the most and are ranked last. Great.
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