Why I voted for Kamala Harris but wanted her to lose
I couldn't think of a decent title, so I just stuck with the facts. I decided to vote Blue this election. I am 90% Democrat on most issues. It doesn't matter because both my home state and current state are both blood red. I have always found that ironic, that someone with liberal values typically gets employed in predominantly Red counties. They should do research papers on this phenomenon. I believed Kamala was best for the country despite any personal misgivings I had.
Here's the deal: I am really tired on the educated black woman trope. Notice I said "trope" and not persons. All my life I have dealt with women (white and black) who have been preachy towards me. I acknowledge some of the criticism was warranted, but a lot of it was contradicted when I finally started working. There are a few complaints I could make, but the last thing I need is to be labeled incel, when that's not true at all. Incel is a derogatory term that has lost all original meaning. A man's ability to attain sex does not mean they are socially intelligent or even a well adjusted individual outside sexual encounters.
I am pointing out that many women talk down to men or belittle men who don't share their world view. Even when you propose viable counter arguments to their beliefs, you are treated poorly because you don't confirm the "modern idealization" of what a man should be. This happens more often with liberal white women than conservative women in my experience.
Its okay to be challenged, but be respectful. Don't speak to me as a child when I have worked to get to where I am and faced challenges on my own. Many of these women have family or relationships to fall back on and not take accountability. I don't have that option.
I will admit I have concerns about Trump, namely the new Government Efficiency counsel under Elon Musk. It's understandable to want to hold government accountable for spending, but that requires you actually know where the money goes. Cutting spending doesn't magically make systems work efficiently and cheaply. You are going to make some sectors operate worse because they barely received much funding to begin with.
Government is NOT A BUSINESS, sometimes positions are created to deal with problems that don't bear fruit until later. A private company may choose to just ignore the problem to save money. And often decisions are made months in advance before final orders can be given.
I have a job in the defense industry, and my main concern is that Elon Musk will just cut programs that have nothing to do with corruption in DC.
Tax cuts are great if you are making over $150, 000 a year for your family. I don't make that much per year. What I get back, even during Trump's first term, is basically just one mortgage payment. That's the main reason I see no reason to vote Trump.
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last commentThe OP finds it odd that someone with liberal values ends up in a Red State? I have Red State values and am not only stuck in a…
@skibum - Same situation here. Hard right conservative living in NJ. And my district is known as THE bluest district in blue NJ. My town is a little…
You know what speaking of Jersey did see Murphy Squawkbox? https://youtu.be/EaW6vBOvLqA?si=bSfwVTOqAjvpBFXl&t=124
That dude had NOTHING. There's just nothing there. Jersey came pretty close this cycle, it ain't…
In my experience women let me lead.
I cast a protest vote because Harris is basically Biden. Who is just Trump with the corporate media behind him.…
@Icey, I actually thought you would be my biggest detractor. To be fair, I agree with Democrats more often than Republicans. But even as a liberal,…
Owlyoung_ggofv both parties are two sides of the same coin. Identity politics are a form of oppression I think. Like lets ignore crumbling infrastructure, bad drinking water, unfettered…
Tariffs on imports are good in theory. The point us to make outsourcing production not as profitable as producing things domestically. The problem is we don't have the…
And peoples existence shouldnt ever be up for debate. Let people be who they are. Once you open identity up tp debate you give bigots a platform
I'm stunned,
Ukraine is fucked. Taiwan is fucked. Palestine is fucked. Labor rights or things like minimum wage or basic things like sick leave will be eliminated. Climate change…
Adding onto this,
I'm not a democrat, I don't watch CNN. Yes Kamala didn't do well but goddamn no one, I mean no one will like what the MAGA…
@Owlyoung_ggofv Your title said you voted for Comrade Kamala but you wanted her to loose. But then your entire article lists reasons why you wanted her to win. So…
The trash on here that support Trump show us one very important thing. Theyre dinosaurs trying to stave off extinction.
Confused old hypocrites being whoremongers while supporting conservative…
@Icey - Thanks for the protest vote in a swing state. We owe you one.
@OP - According to exit polls, black and Latino men have gone from Trump…
So. why do you have so much trouble avoiding conversations with people you don't like conversing with? How do these evil women force you to listen to…
@Nixur68, I wanted Kamala to win because she doesn't care about porn or strip clubs. That was the cherry on top of more serious reasons why I wanted…
@StripClubXpert, it isn't so much that I wanted her (the person) to lose as much as I wanted the far left ideology to fail.
Icey and Puddy Tat…
I was talking to the gorgeous house mom at my favorite club today. She is black and voted for Trump. Biggest reason is that she does not think…
In real life. I just see women acting like women.
Even women with authority act like women if you come across as a man
@Owlyoung_ggofv I want Kamala to win because she isn't dumb fucking racist dictator clown. He's going to gut the economy, ruin the planet and the rest the world.
I'm…
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@Icey: "The trash on here that support Trump.." Talk like this is a huge reason Harris lost. Insulting 80M, calling them Nazis and Garbage doesn't help.
Harris and…
@Owl sounds like you're a black piller. So, reading the posts on TUSCL, you've concluded that men never, ever, ever have self-important, unrealistic expectations that women will…
Walz had much better favorability ratings than Vance. The idea that his degree of perceived masculinity was a significant factor in Harris losing sounds truly delusional.
The ad…
^ Delusional he says. This dipshit wrote the book on delusional!
"Walz had much better favorability ratings than Vance. " Well, it moot now. Tampon Tim can go back, and probably won't get re-elected. He was a true goober.…
“The trash on here that support Trump show us one very important thing. Theyre dinosaurs trying to stave off extinction. “
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Dream on Icee. If Trump can keep…
Hey NIXUR? Ukraine sided with the Nazis in WW2 and the Palestinians are the equivalent of modern day nazis. So fucking glad you lost. Now lets get to…
@wld4testes: Caught you in another lie:
How JD Vance and Tim Walz' Favorability Compares After Debate
According to a post-debate poll by CBS and YouGov, voters felt tied between the…
Watch the maga maggots in here keep playing victim to some evil liberal conspiracy 🤡
A martyr complex is one of the key teners of Trump "believers" it…
“Playing the victim”
You should try stand up. You’re funny as hell.
The liberal losers needed milk and cookies and crayons and safe spaces when they lost. …
Trump ran in 2024 like Biden ran in 2020. He's created expectations that are probably impossible to satisfy. Two possibilities:
Owlyoung_ggofv If you think that his administration will try to shut down all strip clubs with some sort of national law you getting your news from msnbc or some…
@gammanu95 • How JD Vance and Tim Walz' Favorability Compares After Debate
@motorhead • "The liberal losers needed milk and cookies and crayons and safe spaces when they lost...."
I can't believe they are giving milk & cookies to college students! These colleges…
Trump enacted sesta fosta. Conservative DAs raid clubs and blades. Yet the morons here pretend like being whore mongers falls in live with conservative "values" 🤡
We are we even dating favorability polls from weeks ago? Vance and his party won the only poll that matters on Tuesday, November 5, 2024. Americans…
Lol, i just made the elections have consequences reference in another thread.
As infantile behaviors go, milk and cookies in nothing compared to the Jan 6 temper tantrum.
^ Except the Summer 2020 riots over a career criminal overdosing.
No one cares about Jan 6. I don't know why the fuck Harris made that a central point…
@Icey The RNC also had Amber Rose speak at their convention. There is not going to be any federal legislation to shut down these clubs as long as…
^^ Nobody cares about the 2020 riots.
It likely wouldn't make the top 100 issues that influenced voting. Whereas democracy (of which January 6 and Trump's attempted coup…
^ people saw the democrat lies for what they were. There was no attempted coupl. Trump is not a threat to democracy. American voters punished…
Gammanu embarrasses himself again with his lack of reading comprehension.
The very article he shared (How JD Vance and Tim Walz' Favorability Compares After Debate) in fact states that…
You're still lying. You are giving increases in favorability, not actual favorability.
Trump and JD Vance won the only poll that matters.…
^ Just making more a fool of yourself. Anyone can read the article you linked and see those numbers are actual favorability.
The attempted coup is all documented…
@wld4tatas
"Nobody cares about the 2020 riots."
People care about law and order, of which that was one manifestation. Trump was favored on this issue. It's also tangentially related to…
"A martyr complex is one of the key teners of Trump "believers" it dictates their faux messianic message"
When Hillary lost in 2016, during her concession speech, she (and…
I plan to stay glued to the Elector Certification by Harris on 6-Jan-2025 as she approves "Hitler". This will be priceless.
I do expect something evil to pop-up…
"This stain on Trump will never be forgotten, it will be part of Trump's legacy."
80M+ know it was ginned up. The Dem Star Chamber didn't provide all evidence…
wld4testes is repeating the same talking points over and over, practically quoting Nancy Pelosi. That's how sad and out of ideas he is (actually always has been).
The…
^ You've been caught lying and deflecting multiple times here, and you still continue.
Rioters were prosecuted in MN. And those who stormed the Capital on January 6…
^weak opinion, based on zero facts. Very progressive.
No one died as a result of the riot at the Capitol, except for the lady murdered by Capitol police. Why was he not tried like so…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#:~:text=Within%2036%20hours%2C%20six%20people,injured%2C%20including%20174%20police%20officers.
6 people died. Including a cop beaten to death by trump believer rioters
It's not anything unusual that law enforcement prioritizes cases that draw press attention. It isn't just Trump, the Clintons and John Gotti are also examples. Hopefully…
Icey is my bitch: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/
Sadly, it proves Wikipedia cannot be trusted for facts and truth.
Your bitch troll ass said no one died 🤡
Many Iraq vets died by suicide. Due to their traumatic experiences in a war, justified with the lies of the President. Several police officers who defended…
^I too would have second thoughts about my future after saving the worthless lives they saved.
@skibum609
Blah Blah Blah I am really mad. Whatever dude. You made your bed. Trump is going to deport millions along with more tariffs starting a trade war. The…
https://youtube.com/shorts/UKHDLGC1KS8?si=Z8eR1g6xJdxhPRSM
Biden is trump with the corporate media behind him
The fear mongers on here need to stop spreading the false narrative that Trump is going to ban porn and shut down strip clubs.
Trump has disavowed…
Trump won. Harris lost. Republicans won. Democrats last. America won. Liberals lost.
The moderators can close this thread. It's gotten out of hand. I normally let these die naturally but it's beginning to turn toxic.
Look guys, I am not…
^ Every political thread turns toxic here, dude.
Porn is ruled to be protected under 1A. All this shit about it and strip clubs being banned is stupid,…
@ Puddy Tat, I have mixed opinions on that, but we can agree to disagree.
Never underestimate how strong ideological fanaticism can become, left or right. Personally,…
^ Banning porn is way the fuck down any side's just of priorities. Doesn't even rate to Republican voters. You think it could ever get 60 votes in…
They wont go after porn. Theyll go after companies that make porn. Theyll attack sex. Theyre already attacking womens bodily autonomy. Attacking trans rights. It wont stop. Its…
Arguing that Trump will ban porn amd atripping is just stupid. Get a grip on reality.
https://reason.com/2019/10/04/pornography-is-protected-by-the-first-amendment/
@ Puddy Tat, I am well aware of the First Amendment. But the fact of the matter is, Trump has control of this current Supreme Court bench.
I don't…
@ Puddy Tat, the religious right is not as powerful as say 1960, but they have power. 14 states have age restrictions on porn viewing, to point where…
^ Trump has control over the bench but unlike Roe, the decision that porn is protected under 1A isn't on shaky constitutional grounds.
Age restrictions are a different matter.…
@ Puddy Tat, I agree. To be honest, this entire country is for a rude awakening if porn is banned. Even if you despise porn, it's the fact…
^ I live in the Boston area, though when I visit my good friend in Atlanta, we spend a lot of time clubbing.
I worry about porn being…
^ Most of my clubbing is in Providence though, and I don't travel much for work. I used to and could report back from other cities or countries.…
They GOP is going to ban porn, onlyfans and strip clubs on federal level. The bible wackos support trump, he doesn't care and will let them do it
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/08/17/masculine-policy-the-gops-plan-to-outlaw-porn-and-suspend-the-first-amendment/