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CLIP JOINT USA, is this what Deja Vu is trying to do in TJ?
san_jose_guy
money was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
Sunday, November 7, 2021 12:06 AM
There are two reviews of this club where they say that sitting with girls in the front room, the girl refused boob contact. Seemed like it was prohibited.
Of course a girl has that right. But my point is, DV has a history of destroying front room friendliness. That is their main signature, forcing the contact into the backrooms, beyond the tollgate.
Now this might not mean that the highest back room mileage is gone. In TJ it probably does not. But it destroys the quality.
Intimate rapport has to be obtained in a free flowing and non-committal way. This means in the front room.
It looks like DV could be trying to poison TJ the same way it ruined the best clubs in San Francisco, like Market Street Cinema.
They are imposing arbitrary rules which are not legally necessary in that venue. They are not letting the women do it their way.
They might be trying to export their Clip Joint USA business model.
Need to be alert for this!
SJG
Of course a girl has that right. But my point is, DV has a history of destroying front room friendliness. That is their main signature, forcing the contact into the backrooms, beyond the tollgate.
Now this might not mean that the highest back room mileage is gone. In TJ it probably does not. But it destroys the quality.
Intimate rapport has to be obtained in a free flowing and non-committal way. This means in the front room.
It looks like DV could be trying to poison TJ the same way it ruined the best clubs in San Francisco, like Market Street Cinema.
They are imposing arbitrary rules which are not legally necessary in that venue. They are not letting the women do it their way.
They might be trying to export their Clip Joint USA business model.
Need to be alert for this!
SJG
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My concern is that it looks like they are trying to export their system across the boarder.
SJG
SJG
But yeah deja vu can be strict on prohibiting prostitution
SJG
The issue is that they destroy the front room interaction, force guys into the back room and to pay the toll, for things which there is no legal need for.
SJG
But deja vu clubs are some of yhe best ones when it comes to how dancers are treated. Nice dressing rooms etc
SJG
San Francisco had been wild, almost anything goes.
So you don't take a girl into the back room to see if she is good. You take her into the back room because she is already great in the front room.
Some were calling Market St. Cinema an "Orgy Club". Sometimes people didn't even bother with the back rooms.
The women make far more money that way, cause they can do it their way, and they tend to do what it takes to make it happen.
DV wants you to shell out money for the back room, really just cause you have been sold a fantasy. The girl has not opened up to you, so what happens will be by dissociation.
And they are trying to export this to TJ, so it seems.
As it is now, TJ is known for Front Room Feel Ups and Makeout Sessions going to FIV, and sometimes even more.
Primarily DV is a think thank. With women at their highest levels, they have studied the psychodynamics of strip clubs and figured out how to maximize the take.
Jim and Artie Mitchell said they wanted MBOT to be Amsterdam West. And Jim had seen there a Front Room on stage DATY show. A line of guys, each would take a towelette and wipe the the girl off, before giving her some licks. This kind of stuff shocks people and changes them. It shocked Jim Mitchell. When he came back he was never the same.
The Mitchells wanted to thumb their noses at the society and its authorities.
DV is not like this, it is beholden to investors and wants to maximize their return. That means selling more fantasy than reality, and getting has much money out of you as possible. So they tone down the front room, they run up the prices, and so what happens in back is shit. And it only gives good money for young hotties. The older ones really get squeezed. Eventually most girls leave for looser clubs.
But then that was when they did not control all the clubs in San Francisco. When it gets like that, there is no where else to go. That is when they really destroy the front room and send the prices sky high. $600 half hour, $1200 hour, and with a girl who you have not built any intimate rapport with.
DV buys clubs just to close them, as zoning laws make it impossible to open more. And they are looking CA AB-5, which destroys gig work, to ruin lots of these clubs, so that they can buy them up cheap, and either install their clip joint system, or just close them.
They are not pushing the limits, they are just reaching the bottom of your wallet.
SJG
Gurdjieff and De Hartmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLru2MWx…
The girls can give mileage in the back rooms, but they have to grease bouncers. This is how DV does it, giving themselves plausible deniability. So these bouncers then appoint themselves as pimps. This is a far dirtier arrangement than in your basic anything goes dives where the management just always looks the other way, and the girls do what they want, front room and back room. So once the girls learn which way is up, they then go to these more straight up clubs where they can do it there way and no one is acting as their pimp.
SJG
I'm talking dancers not hookers
SJG
In DV clubs lots of sex acts and FS go on. The girls never say no to anything, they just say, "It will be Very Expensive". So most guys decline and accept LDKing.
Eventually the girls leave for more straight up places.
We had lots of girls in South Bay, refugees from San Francisco. What they said was, "If I wanted to do that I would just be a prostitute and advertise myself on the internet."
They did not object in principle to fucking paying customers. They have no objection to that. But they were not going to be a complicit part of this greasing of pimp bouncers, those guys are scum and they do not like dealing with them, but DV creates them.
Jim and Artie did not do it like this, ever.
SJG