Your “fascination” with pimps comes from the pop culture’s glorification of the pimp and pimping lifestyle in film and song.
As early as the 1970s movies and tv made some pimps “likable” bad guys.
In the 2005 movie “Hustle & Flow” the main character is a pimp trying to break into hip hop.
This film even got an Academy Award for best song, “It’s Hard Out Here for a Pimp” that glorifies pimping and ignores the fact that pimps use force and psychological coercion on women.
“Man it seems like I'm duckin' dodgin' bullets everyday
Niggas hatin' on me cause I got, hoes on the tray
But I gotta stay paid, gotta stay above water
Couldn't keep up with my hoes, that's when shit got harder
North Memphis where I'm from, I'm 7th Street bound
Where niggas all the time end up lost and never found
Man these girls think we prove thangs, leave a big head
They come hopin' every night, they don't end up bein' dead
Wait I got a snow bunny, and a black girl too
You pay the right price and they'll both do you
That's the way the game goes, gotta keep it strictly pimpin'
Gotta have my hustle tight, makin' change off these women, yeah”
Some sick humans, pimps in this case, have and continue to, take pleasure in the suffering of others...
Most extras girls have pimps. Pimps are the ones usually getting hoes to work from clubs. That's much more common than actually getting hoes from the club to choose up.
On the sidewalk in San Francisco, one SG who would have graced any strip club, she on one side of the street and her pimp on the otherside. The black pimp talked to me. He was nice. Then when I came back on the otherside she talked to me.
I was not looking for "date", but if I was the fact that she had the pimp would have scotched it.
A black girl that I wish I did session with.
In our strip clubs most girls do not have pimps. But one had a guy who was her security. He might have been a pimp/BF.
Spectator Mag talked about girls being allowed to have "Managers" in the strip clubs. I would not like that. The club is a kind of a pimp.
The black girl was a different one. If I had it to do again I would have sessioned, TLNed and more, with her.
And in the strip clubs, girls should not need to have a pimp. Club should be enough. If they are not enough, then the girls should dance some place else.
And skibum609, you are going to get a sore throat.
ICEY, I think this varies from club to club. In SF's Max Mileage places it was true at a time. Don't know if it is still true, and I don't think most of the clubs allow it.
It would turn me away from those girls and those clubs.
We had one girls who had that, guy to drive her around and hold on to her money for her. He was nice. Girl was a blast to talk to. Way out there. At the above ground clubs, "I'm looking for gigs."
At the underground clubs, "I'm looking for dates."
But because of the pimp I would not want to go further with her, outside session, cause I know he is a part of her life.
Continuing from my last post. I liked the girl a lot, and I told her so.
THen the guy stared using the name of a popular Pink Poodle dancer, K. She and I got along well and she seemed to want me OTC, telling me when she got off. Now I had noticed that she had left.
From PA.
SO this guy was saying that they were engaged. Really true, or is he just using her name because she was gone?
I thought to myself about how I hoped she was smart enough not to be involved with this guy.
Anyway, the more involved the girl is with such a guy, the less interested in her I will be. I don't want to become like him, living off of women, being involved with them that way.
The thing with hoes is you know they love you when they give you things and want to so things for you. To them giving him money is a sign of her love. Some men abuse that kind of love though
No man calls women hoes; only fucking cunts do. All pimps should be subjected too a large woolen sock, filled with quarters. slammed into their face 2 hours a day, every day. Only a cum stain on a dirty mattress would say there is even one good pimp. Way to go little bitch Icee.
Hey SJGoatfucker, are you gonna spam the board today for 6 hours right through lunch while sitting at the library? Go home on your huffy bike before the meighborhood kids steal it!
Definitely. When hoeing goes on in a club management always gets a cut.
Sjg most will take signs if caring as a weakness to exploit. You have to care. But most of all provide something they lack and need or crave in their lives.
It you treat them like you would any other woman, they will usually respond accordingly. But I am not denying that the women who work in any facet of the sex industry seem to be more immature than most.
Around 1980 I read an issue of Hustler Magazine. I talked about P4P. It did not talk about strip clubs, but it talked about Escorts, AMPs, and Street. It said that AMPs are often the best value.
But the most important thing it said is that you have to treat the P4P women no different than you would treat any other woman. I have talk this completely to heart.
I got robbed by a local club girl I met on s/a Her pimp got me for 100 bucks, I was not willing to pull the trigger on the 357 I had in my hand, a 100 bucks to go away
I think a whore that needs a pimp has hit rock bottom in her career. When she is to the point of giving all the money she makes to a pimp and only getting back a portion of it, and she is willing to put up with both physical and mental abuse, it's not because she truly wants it. It's because she's fucked up her own life so bad and can't control it herself that she's willing to just let a pimp use and abuse and take advantage of her. And lot of times it's because she needs drugs.
My ATF DS was also an escort. Because we spent a lot of time together and she knew I wasn't interested in doing anything beyond dances with her, she trusted me to talk to about it. Not all the time, but it would come up every now and then.
At the time I knew her she was an independent operator, but she did have a pimp years before. She never said he was a pimp outright nor did she call him a boyfriend. She just referred to him as someone she was living with.
She told me that he hit her so hard in the head once that it cracked her skull, gave her a concussion, and she suffered cognitive issues from it. Her memory was never the same. She had a permanent scar and uneven spot on her skull from it and she showed it to me.
She also did drugs with him, I think coke, and getting over it was one of the reasons she was able to take the initiative and finally leave him. The other reason was that hit on the head.
Once she got away from him by leaving Vegas and going back to the PNW, she changed her game up and learned how to escort independently. She basically did it through stripping and social media sites for escorting - TNA, eros.com, tryst.com, escortbook.com. She also quit using and just smoked weed and drank.
And one of her cardinal rules of stripping was to NEVER work nights. And the reason was because that's when the pimps came out to troll strip clubs for potential hos. And she could have easily made 2x-3x stripping by working nights instead of days. But it wasn't worth it whatsoever because of the preying pimp factor. And it wasn't based on fear like physical fear. It was due to staying away from it to stay clean. From fear of regressing back to that kind of life.
This is why icee is so full of shit that stripper whores love her and love giving her money. She's simply controlling them because they are desperate and in need of someone to support their drug use.
Deep down I think icee knows this and has to keep pretending and posting about how she has these loving "relationships" with stripper whores in order to justify her actions and control over them. Also she diverts the reason for their misery onto the trick. Sure, a hooker doesn't really like fucking tricks and all, but one ultimately doesn't like or want to be with a pimp as well. It's a miserable life overall. And the pimp is a key source of that misery.
"The thing with hoes is you know they love you when they give you things and want to so things for you. To them giving him money is a sign of her love. Some men abuse that kind of love though"
^^^ @icee the thing with pimps is that they control and intentionally limit the needs, often drugs, of a desperate whore to the point that she'll do and say anything for her pimp. She'll even put up with abuse, physical or mental.
And you think it's love? Really? It's called desperation and addiction. All created by the pimp. Spoiler alert: an addict is at the mercy of her addiction. A pimp knows this and exploits it. So what does he do? He controls those drugs and gives her just enough to temporarily satisfy her, but also keeps control so that she's completely dependant on him to support her habit. She gets so desperate that she will say and do anything for her drugs. She'll tell a trick or pimp she's in "love" just to get her next fix.
Love? GTFOH! You're a clown. 🤡. Pimps are abusive and exploitative. True scum.
"- Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her ... Its in your best interest to take control of her drug use from the start. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up."
"Have her drug of choice or know where to get it."
"- Don’t be afraid to discipline her. Eventually you’ll have to. Be manipulative with her feelings. When that works it means you have her mind and her heart. If you beat her she’ll just be afraid of you. That’s a bitch move unless you really have to. "
"she’s always looking for a quick fix and fast satisfaction. You have to be a few steps ahead of her and make sure you fulfil her needs for constant stimulation so that she has no reason to stray. The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible."
^^^ this is a pretty good news piece on pimping. The pimp interviewed admits it's all about controlling and manipulating and taking advantage of a desperate whore. It's nothing like icee describes.
^^^ here's an interview with a stripper whore on how she got recruited by a pimp. She stayed with the pimp for seven years and said it was a physically and mentally abusive relationship. Her final words about it were...
"It was horrible"
That doesn't sound like love. Yet that's what icee assumes. Manipulative clown.
I don't work at "extras clubs" now, but when I did (as a "clean" dancer), working with girls with pimps was exhausting. They will do anything for a buck because they NEED to take home X amount of money for their pimp or they'll be punished, whether emotionally or physically. Seriously, working with girls who have pimps is NOT fun.
"Pimps aren't always bad people just as hoes always aren't"
A real pimp is manipulative and abusive. Nothing good about abusing vunerable women for your own monetary game. Girls who are pimped out may act like they're rolling in cash and living a fabulous life, but if it's true pimping, they're handing every penny they worked for over to the pimp while being 100% controlled by the pimp in nearly every facet of life. Most pimps beat their hoes to keep them in line and remind them that they're just powerless hoes and the pimp is in charge. I know women who've been pimped. It shouldn't be downplayed or glamorized.
@Nina deep down icee knows all of what you are saying. As a pimp herself and narcissist she's not going to admit it and also has rationalized, rather, performed the mental gymnastics, that what she's doing to her stripper whores is about "love" and "relationships" rather than control, exploitation, manipulation, and abuse.
And since some of her stripper whores are to the point that they tell her they "love" her, it just means she's taken extreme control over them to the point that they are so desperate that they'll tell her anything she wants to hear. She's the worst of them.
In cases like that a lot b of girls will turn tricks after their shift at the club.
But many girls have a weekly quota so it's less stress on them.
Beating them is pointless since bruises or marks make it harder to work.
Hoes choose up and they always compete with other hoes. Pimps will create drama between them and use it as leverage. Taking the side of whoever brings in the most money.
A pimp usually finds a girl at her lowest and is there when no one else is and builds her up.
But yeah. A lot of abusive boyfriends act like pimps. They'll beat and emotionally abuse girls. Trap them with a kid. Control what they eat who they talk to etc.
A lot of times you'd never guess who. I know a girl who has a popular tik tok channel about being a young mom but it's her pimps kid and he beats the sjit out of her. Another girl is an insta model with over 100k followers but her boyfriend pimp rents her out as a party favor.
And then you get girls who want to be pimped and will start treating a boyfriend like a pimp coz they submit like that.
"A pimp usually finds a girl at her lowest and is there when no one else is and builds her up."
^^^ niggette, please. A pimp INTENTIONALLY seeks out a woman at her lowest and most vulnerable state so that "he" can take maximum advantage of that. It's because she's the easiest to manipulate, control, exploit, and abuse. "Building her up" is just your euphemism for this coz you like to do this to women. Manipulative clown. 🤭🤡
"And then you get girls who want to be pimped and will start treating a boyfriend like a pimp coz they submit like that."
^^^ niggette, please. Only a desperate and drug addicted woman gets with a pimp because "he" can support her habit and her life is controlled by her drug addiction. A pimp exploits this and gets her to the point that she'll say and do anything for the drugs "he" provides. Even call "him" a "boyfriend".
And often the ignorant and most vulnerable women won't realize her "man" is a pimp at the start. And it's because the pimp PRETENDS to be that "boyfriend" first. Then, over time, when she's given her trust and become dependent on "him", the real pump comes out and she becomes stuck with "him". By then it's harder to break the "relationship" because the faux "boyfriend" has taken over control of her.
LMFAO that you think she's willingly submitted and wants that. She's been manipulated and duped to get to that point because of the pimp.
Everything you are saying is exactly what that ex pimp said in that link I posted. Manipulative clown. 🤭🤡
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Your “fascination” with pimps comes from the pop culture’s glorification of the pimp and pimping lifestyle in film and song.
As early as the 1970s movies and tv made some pimps “likable” bad guys.
In the 2005 movie “Hustle & Flow” the main character is a pimp trying to break into hip hop.
This film even got an Academy Award for best song, “It’s Hard Out Here for a Pimp” that glorifies pimping and ignores the fact that pimps use force and psychological coercion on women.
“Man it seems like I'm duckin' dodgin' bullets everyday
Niggas hatin' on me cause I got, hoes on the tray
But I gotta stay paid, gotta stay above water
Couldn't keep up with my hoes, that's when shit got harder
North Memphis where I'm from, I'm 7th Street bound
Where niggas all the time end up lost and never found
Man these girls think we prove thangs, leave a big head
They come hopin' every night, they don't end up bein' dead
Wait I got a snow bunny, and a black girl too
You pay the right price and they'll both do you
That's the way the game goes, gotta keep it strictly pimpin'
Gotta have my hustle tight, makin' change off these women, yeah”
Some sick humans, pimps in this case, have and continue to, take pleasure in the suffering of others...
I was not looking for "date", but if I was the fact that she had the pimp would have scotched it.
A black girl that I wish I did session with.
In our strip clubs most girls do not have pimps. But one had a guy who was her security. He might have been a pimp/BF.
Spectator Mag talked about girls being allowed to have "Managers" in the strip clubs. I would not like that. The club is a kind of a pimp.
SJG
The black girl was a different one. If I had it to do again I would have sessioned, TLNed and more, with her.
And in the strip clubs, girls should not need to have a pimp. Club should be enough. If they are not enough, then the girls should dance some place else.
And skibum609, you are going to get a sore throat.
SJG
It would turn me away from those girls and those clubs.
SJG
At the underground clubs, "I'm looking for dates."
But because of the pimp I would not want to go further with her, outside session, cause I know he is a part of her life.
SJG
extremely well composed picture, better than 98% of what is in the dancer directory
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=2156
SJG
SJG
Did he refuse to hat dance for you or maybe his dick didn't tickle your fancy? Lol
THen the guy stared using the name of a popular Pink Poodle dancer, K. She and I got along well and she seemed to want me OTC, telling me when she got off. Now I had noticed that she had left.
From PA.
SO this guy was saying that they were engaged. Really true, or is he just using her name because she was gone?
I thought to myself about how I hoped she was smart enough not to be involved with this guy.
Anyway, the more involved the girl is with such a guy, the less interested in her I will be. I don't want to become like him, living off of women, being involved with them that way.
SJG
And ICEY, women who engage in prostitution are often living very down to earth, I mean fatalistic lives. So they respond to any signs of care.
SJG
Sjg most will take signs if caring as a weakness to exploit. You have to care. But most of all provide something they lack and need or crave in their lives.
SJG
SJG
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=5041
But the most important thing it said is that you have to treat the P4P women no different than you would treat any other woman. I have talk this completely to heart.
SJG
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=9268#comm…
My ATF DS was also an escort. Because we spent a lot of time together and she knew I wasn't interested in doing anything beyond dances with her, she trusted me to talk to about it. Not all the time, but it would come up every now and then.
At the time I knew her she was an independent operator, but she did have a pimp years before. She never said he was a pimp outright nor did she call him a boyfriend. She just referred to him as someone she was living with.
She told me that he hit her so hard in the head once that it cracked her skull, gave her a concussion, and she suffered cognitive issues from it. Her memory was never the same. She had a permanent scar and uneven spot on her skull from it and she showed it to me.
She also did drugs with him, I think coke, and getting over it was one of the reasons she was able to take the initiative and finally leave him. The other reason was that hit on the head.
Once she got away from him by leaving Vegas and going back to the PNW, she changed her game up and learned how to escort independently. She basically did it through stripping and social media sites for escorting - TNA, eros.com, tryst.com, escortbook.com. She also quit using and just smoked weed and drank.
And one of her cardinal rules of stripping was to NEVER work nights. And the reason was because that's when the pimps came out to troll strip clubs for potential hos. And she could have easily made 2x-3x stripping by working nights instead of days. But it wasn't worth it whatsoever because of the preying pimp factor. And it wasn't based on fear like physical fear. It was due to staying away from it to stay clean. From fear of regressing back to that kind of life.
This is why icee is so full of shit that stripper whores love her and love giving her money. She's simply controlling them because they are desperate and in need of someone to support their drug use.
Deep down I think icee knows this and has to keep pretending and posting about how she has these loving "relationships" with stripper whores in order to justify her actions and control over them. Also she diverts the reason for their misery onto the trick. Sure, a hooker doesn't really like fucking tricks and all, but one ultimately doesn't like or want to be with a pimp as well. It's a miserable life overall. And the pimp is a key source of that misery.
^^^ @icee the thing with pimps is that they control and intentionally limit the needs, often drugs, of a desperate whore to the point that she'll do and say anything for her pimp. She'll even put up with abuse, physical or mental.
And you think it's love? Really? It's called desperation and addiction. All created by the pimp. Spoiler alert: an addict is at the mercy of her addiction. A pimp knows this and exploits it. So what does he do? He controls those drugs and gives her just enough to temporarily satisfy her, but also keeps control so that she's completely dependant on him to support her habit. She gets so desperate that she will say and do anything for her drugs. She'll tell a trick or pimp she's in "love" just to get her next fix.
Love? GTFOH! You're a clown. 🤡. Pimps are abusive and exploitative. True scum.
"- Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her ... Its in your best interest to take control of her drug use from the start. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up."
"Have her drug of choice or know where to get it."
"- Don’t be afraid to discipline her. Eventually you’ll have to. Be manipulative with her feelings. When that works it means you have her mind and her heart. If you beat her she’ll just be afraid of you. That’s a bitch move unless you really have to. "
"she’s always looking for a quick fix and fast satisfaction. You have to be a few steps ahead of her and make sure you fulfil her needs for constant stimulation so that she has no reason to stray. The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible."
^^^ icee's very own words on how to be a pimp.
^^^ this is a pretty good news piece on pimping. The pimp interviewed admits it's all about controlling and manipulating and taking advantage of a desperate whore. It's nothing like icee describes.
^^^ here's an interview with a stripper whore on how she got recruited by a pimp. She stayed with the pimp for seven years and said it was a physically and mentally abusive relationship. Her final words about it were...
"It was horrible"
That doesn't sound like love. Yet that's what icee assumes. Manipulative clown.
A real pimp is manipulative and abusive. Nothing good about abusing vunerable women for your own monetary game. Girls who are pimped out may act like they're rolling in cash and living a fabulous life, but if it's true pimping, they're handing every penny they worked for over to the pimp while being 100% controlled by the pimp in nearly every facet of life. Most pimps beat their hoes to keep them in line and remind them that they're just powerless hoes and the pimp is in charge. I know women who've been pimped. It shouldn't be downplayed or glamorized.
And since some of her stripper whores are to the point that they tell her they "love" her, it just means she's taken extreme control over them to the point that they are so desperate that they'll tell her anything she wants to hear. She's the worst of them.
But many girls have a weekly quota so it's less stress on them.
Beating them is pointless since bruises or marks make it harder to work.
Hoes choose up and they always compete with other hoes. Pimps will create drama between them and use it as leverage. Taking the side of whoever brings in the most money.
A pimp usually finds a girl at her lowest and is there when no one else is and builds her up.
But yeah. A lot of abusive boyfriends act like pimps. They'll beat and emotionally abuse girls. Trap them with a kid. Control what they eat who they talk to etc.
A lot of times you'd never guess who. I know a girl who has a popular tik tok channel about being a young mom but it's her pimps kid and he beats the sjit out of her. Another girl is an insta model with over 100k followers but her boyfriend pimp rents her out as a party favor.
And then you get girls who want to be pimped and will start treating a boyfriend like a pimp coz they submit like that.
It's complex
Call it what it is, Ms. Moral High Ground.
It's controlling, abusive, exploitative, and manipulative of vulnerable women.
But since you are a pimp yourself and you can't take any high ground over others, you can't say it. Manipulative clown. 🤭🤡
^^^ niggette, please. A pimp INTENTIONALLY seeks out a woman at her lowest and most vulnerable state so that "he" can take maximum advantage of that. It's because she's the easiest to manipulate, control, exploit, and abuse. "Building her up" is just your euphemism for this coz you like to do this to women. Manipulative clown. 🤭🤡
^^^ niggette, please. Only a desperate and drug addicted woman gets with a pimp because "he" can support her habit and her life is controlled by her drug addiction. A pimp exploits this and gets her to the point that she'll say and do anything for the drugs "he" provides. Even call "him" a "boyfriend".
And often the ignorant and most vulnerable women won't realize her "man" is a pimp at the start. And it's because the pimp PRETENDS to be that "boyfriend" first. Then, over time, when she's given her trust and become dependent on "him", the real pump comes out and she becomes stuck with "him". By then it's harder to break the "relationship" because the faux "boyfriend" has taken over control of her.
LMFAO that you think she's willingly submitted and wants that. She's been manipulated and duped to get to that point because of the pimp.
Everything you are saying is exactly what that ex pimp said in that link I posted. Manipulative clown. 🤭🤡