Did anyone hear about a 3 foot rule law being passed in Ohio?
A dancer at Christies in Cleveland told me she was moving out of state with another dancer because the clubs will be real dead or close in Ohio after the law becomes active in a few weeks.
And here is a link to another source. Note on that web page, you can also access the petition to repeal the new law.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I am a middle-aged white guy who likes to go to strip clubs and have nude or semi-nude women definitely make contact.
When is effective date- I seem to recall Sept 4?
Yes, Sept 4.
Here's the link to the judicial website (so the Judges know when to start enforcing yet another strange law)
harrydave - What the fuck is this "Healthy Families Act"?
I don't know about families, but when I'm in a strip club getting my dick hard, that increases my blood flow! Isn't that healthy? LOL
Anyway, harrydave has done a lot of appreciable research for all of us on this Ohio issue, and I commend him for his diligence! Thank you.
I signed a petition for the coalition of strip club owners and dancers seeking to repeal the law, while in Club 2K in Newark, Ohio about 6 weeks ago. According to what I have read, the state has to look over the signatures and addresses to make sure each person signed is a registered state voter. Well, too bad for me, because I have been back here only 7 months, unemployed (or temporarily retired by choice), and still a resident of Tennessee. If they can prove 200 and some thousand signers, then the vote goes to the public.
I'm glad to see this 6' bubble rule was amended, that was entirely fucking crazy! Ohio already has a 'no touch' rule, so I don't know how much more it can change, but the sentencing of violators scares the shit of me!
Here I come Indiana and Kentucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Bones, I guess I'm just a repressed Lawyer.
The petition was certified by the State, even with some bad signatures from shady guys like you, so the initiative will be on the ballot this fall.
harrydave - Sounds great! Now, how can we convinse the citizen voters to "leave our 140 strip clubs" alone?? I have a feeling, the citizens are going to vote for this (modified??) no touch law anyway.
Management in most Ohio clubs have been strict in overseeing the no touch law, but I wasn't aware of the penalties for getting caught! YEOWWWEEE! However, based on my last "mini" Northern Ohio road trip, you can still find a handful of clubs with skillful dancers having super mileage, while management turns their heads. LOL
Well there is hope. Scottsdale AZ is a conservative upscale city in a conservative state. City Council passed a restrictive no touch law, and a petition was circulated to give the citizens a chance to vote on it. It went on the ballot, and the law was repealed.
Now, Scottsdale has only 2 clubs, and if you check out the reviews, you'll see quality of girls is high but mileage is low, and there are better clubs a few miles away in Phoenix. So why would the good people of Scottsdale repeal the law?
My theory is there are horny guys in all walks of life, from Presidents to evangelical ministers. In public, they walk the straight and narrow, decrying all sins, and vowing to make our streets safe for the little children. In the voting booth, or the booths at the back of club, it's a different story. Little head, get thee behind me!
I figure if the citizens vote this November on real restrictive no touch laws, then Ohio can starting posting advertisements that Ohio is open to ALL Amish migration and purist organizations and families. They can advertise.... we have NO bars, NO strip clubs, NO liquer sales, NO pornography.....
according to this, petitions won't be delivered until monday:
Petitions halt new strip club rules Associated Press
COLUMBUS - New state rules restricting strip clubs will not go into effect today after opponents submitted petitions for a statewide referendum overturning the law, the secretary of state's office said.
The group representing strip club owners and dancers want a ballot measure to overturn a law that halts nude dancing after midnight and prohibits patrons from touching strippers.
Citizens for Community Standards turned in 382,508 signatures to Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner's office Monday, said Sandy Theis, a spokeswoman for the group. The signatures still must be validated by Brunner's office.
"We are very, very confident that we're going to make it on the ballot in November," Theis said.
The secretary of state's office opened briefly during the Labor Day holiday to allow the group to turn in the petitions before the new restrictions took effect.
The group needs at least 241,366 valid signatures from registered voters - a number that equals 6 percent of the total vote cast in the 2006 governor's race - to place the issue on the November ballot.
The petitions block implementation of the law pending the outcome of the November vote, said Jeff Ortega, a spokesman for the secretary of state. Ortega said Brunner's office would work quickly to determine if the group collected enough valid signatures to put the issue on the ballot.
The club owners and dancers argue the law infringes on the rights to free speech and expression.
"It's time to stop legislating morality," said Jennifer Welch, a dancer from Cincinnati and member of Dancers for Democracy, a group formed to fight the new rules.
Citizens for Community Values, a Cincinnati-based conservative group that pushed for the new law, argues that the restrictions will reduce crimes such as prostitution and decrease blight in neighborhoods around strip clubs.
The conservative group has said that it doubts the club owners would get enough valid signatures and that Ohio voters would support the new law, which passed the Republican-controlled legislature in May. Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland allowed it to become law without his signature.
If the secretary of state's office finds the group fell short, Citizens for Community Standards will have an additional 10 business days to submit more signatures, Theis said
There is all kinds of info on this on the web. Here are some (most likely reliable) sources:
suealtmeyer.typepad.com
legislature.state.oh.us
The relevant passage is: No employee who regularly appears nude or seminude on the premises of a sexually oriented business, while on the premises of that sexually oriented business and while nude or seminude, shall knowingly touch a patron who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or another employee who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or the clothing of a patron who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or another employee who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or allow a patron who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or another employee who is not a member of the employee's immediate family to touch the employee or the clothing of the employee.
I can't make this shit up.
However, there is a slight ray of hope. There is a ballot measure that the voters of OH will get to vote on, Read about it here
toledoblade.com