Infection Rate VS. Hospitalization

Bubba - since we both live in the same county. "we know how many people have been hospitalized since the pandemic began, but we know nothing from these figures about how many hospital beds are being occupied today. Thus, we don’t know from DPH public reporting how many empty beds are available for new patients, a critically important metric."

A month ago, all they were testing were people with severe symptoms. Now anyone can get a test. And we have recently learned from the anti-body tests that a LOT of people dont' have symptoms. So yes, the Cases numbers are going to up. Deaths are what I care about. But the Hospitalizations will be the best indicator from now on.

Hospitalizations are key. Another interesting stat is to look at the number of deaths compared to hospilations.

As morbid as it is, the number of people saved from all the efforts of looked at critically isn't all that high.

How many deaths and hospitalizations this year from the 'regular' virus as opposed to the Chinese virus? How many 'regular' virus deaths are counted as Chinese? Try to find that number, I can not.
I bought some more RIC Hospitality and some General Electric today.

The present antibody tests are notorious for false positives a significant percentage of the time. So, at this time they are not a reliable source of data on "who had it / is immune to it".

Are all states not releasing the stats on number of hospitilizations? Here in Ohio you can't turn on a local tv station in the afternoon without having to see the 2 hour daily press conference with the governor in which he updates those stats. As of today's briefing the state has had total of 20,969 cases. There have been 1,135 deaths. 3,956 people have been hospitalized, with 1,123 admitted to the ICU. Not small numbers but not as high as had been projected thanks to the social distancing that has taken place.

I'm not sure about other places but I am ready for the part of the state near me to reopen since we have had a truly negligible amount of infections. Here in Brown County and the 4 surrounding counties we have only had a total of 169 cases, 40 hospitalizations and 5 deaths.

Clermont 109 cases, 27 hospitalizations, 3 deaths
Clinton 31 cases, 7 hospitalizations, 0 deaths
Highland 11 cases, 3 hospitalizations, 1 death
Brown 13 cases, 3 hospitalizations, 1 death
Adams 5 cases, 0 hospitalizations, 0 deaths

I'm pretty sure that the 6 or 7 hospitals in these 5 counties can handle the cases without too much strain, but since so many in this area are near or below the poverty line I don't think our economy can handle much more. I'm not sure other areas in Ohio let alone nationwide are ready to reopen based on their numbers but I think we are.

There’s a huge debate raging here in Florida about whether the figures being released are truthful or accurate.

@25, do people suspect they are understated or overstated?

^ It’s all over the place band that’s really not surprising considering the governor has been like mr trump avoiding responsibility no matter the cost

"How many deaths and hospitalizations this year from the 'regular' virus as opposed to the Chinese virus? How many 'regular' virus deaths are counted as Chinese? Try to find that number, I can not"

The so called regular virus is manifestly different that Covid-19 and shows as such in testing. That number (the regular one) will be skewed because social distancing also reduces it, also no one is really paying attention to 'flu' reporting so it doesn't sell ad space to report on that.

Here in Nevada they report every day the number of tests and the infection rate found with those tests - it has remained quite constant at around 10%. So even though the number of cases is rising it is rising mostly as a result of significantly more testing. In addition they report dozens of other statewide stats in the newspapers each morning.

Florida has the 2nd highest percentage of 65+ population, but that is 20.5% against a national average between 16-17%. So it is not wall to wall senior citizens like the stereotype. My first reaction was Florida must be underreporting since its rate is half the national average. But, if you take the states around New York (NY, NJ, PA, MA, CT, RI), they have over half the total cases and only about 15% of the US population. Florida's numbers are not far from the average of the remaining 44 states.

Interested to see what @twentyfive reports.

I think you have it right @goldmonger
Just one caveat our governor is a Trump ass kisser, as you well know anyone relying on truth from Mr Trump is in deep shit.

@623 - the numbers are so for Nevada I'm surprised their not rioting already. I think the LV mayor had the right idea

^ low for Nevada

Techman, "How many deaths and hospitalizations this year from the 'regular' virus as opposed to the Chinese virus? How many 'regular' virus deaths are counted as Chinese? Try to find that number, I can not."

Several article I read on how Coronavirus cases are being under counted, mentioned that since we are past the end of the flu season, most cases with flu like symptoms, and pneumonia since march, are with high probability Covid-19. A lot of the people who died haven't been tested yet, and when they are, it is expected that many people who's death certificates were listed as flu, pneumonia, and other reasons will be found to have been infected.

Dang 25, so you’re a Trump fan I guess... I was hoping for it not to get political, but my point, which it seems many, who responded agreed with, is that the media continues to over focus on increased “infection rates” without the perspective of cases severe enough for hospitalization . My understanding is that is how experts are advising on lifting restrictions, that and capacity if they rise again. Time will tell, but I hope politics can stay a reduced part of the debate...

I get it bubba and I mostly agree with you the issue at hand right now is that if you want to use the data you have to be able to trust it, and the current political climate makes much of the data suspicious
But your point is valid

Yes relying on Trump is a death sentence, except that those who went agaionst Trump in New York, New Orleans and Michigan have the most deaths and the more Democrats in control where you live, guaranytees that you will have less rights and more covid deaths. Andrew Cuomo is such a fuck up he makes Trump look smart and yet the Democrats love him. Best thing in all of this? The place in America where the most people have died? AOC's district.

^ You're gonna be so happy when Uncle Joe wins the election come November, you'll have a whole new bunch to rant about 😀

I will have more money since the Democrats will raise taxes and I am planning on paying less on the same income. The fact the Democrats have decided to back the rapiost ended the #mettoo movement, so its win/win for me. People with children and grandchildren who vote democrat are killing their future and since I have neither I encourage them to do so.

^ Gotta love ya buddy the fact that you're so damn consistent, I'll still buy ya a beer when you show up down here 🤧

Let me know when things start opening up. Even though the courts here are scheduled to open 6/1, I noticed all my June cases were either converted to telephonic hearings or continued, so I may be down next month.