Just so u don't get it twisted: women like me don't dislike men who like strip c

bc we think that men who ENJOY paying for RATHER THAN EARNING a woman's attention is pathETIC***

I’m a married guy in a real relationship and have done much work to earn my wife’s attention. I also like getting attention from girls at the club and have built relationships with them as well but obviously on a different level. I’m not a lazy fuck

BTW my wife likes going to the strip club as well. Does that make her a pathetic female ?

Yes it would I'm sorry...I don't get how ppl can get high off of buying ppl I find that objectifying

Well if she enjoys the dances yes..I like going 2 clubs cuz the girls are pretty anf its cool but i dont buy services .

Because I don't buy services, I don't go often and when I do its only like for an hour or two and tip sooo no I'm not making "the dancers mad " by doing so

So why do women like that think their attention is something that men need to work so hard for and often end up not even getting the results they desire despite having worked so hard to achieve it? Many girls dangle their pussies in-front of guys like an ice cream cone so that they can get a sense of power out of making them work hard to get them and then denying them. What's more frustrating is knowing that you worked so hard and then seeing the laziest motherfucker get all the girls. Eventually you start to feel that your efforts aren't worth the results. When you pay a girl though, you see your efforts come through. You know for a fact that the amount of effort you put in will be proportional to the reward.

Because of this, I feel like the dating/hookup culture is a scam. I think this "game" that men play where they compete for women's attentions is horrible for our psychological and emotional health. I think that's what I really criticize a lot of men on TUSCL for doing is that they obviously don't want to play the game or they wouldn't be paying girls for sex but they expect me to continue playing it just because I'm young. But I'm just as fed up with it as they are. I wish that the guys here would be more accepting towards guys who don't want to play that game anymore instead of calling them losers and stuff like that for trying to find ways to opt out. We're told that the only way you can have your needs fulfilled is if you play that game but as I'm discovering, that isn't true. Guys who are figuring out how to survive without playing the game are doing us all a favor, they should be respected instead of criticized. Girls in strip clubs make it simple, they tell you what they need from you in order to give you the things you want, you work to earn them, and then they reciprocate by trying to be the girl of your dreams and fulfill your fantasies.

I don't want a girlfriend who will see me as a way to upgrade her status among others. I want a girlfriend who is ready to make me the most important thing in her life and wants to become my best friend. A girl I can be vulnerable and intimate with without worrying that she will lose respect for me and leave me. I want to feel like even if the entire world was to turn on us, that we'd still have each other. I will never find a girl like that by playing a game to earn girls' attention. I will only find a girl like that by being exactly who I am right now and waiting to find a girl who knows who I am and accepts me anyway.

But I also have needs that have to be fulfilled or I become a depressed, irritable, pessimistic asshole who irritates those around him with incessant complaining, and that's where hookers and 2D girls come in. With those in my life, I can do pretty well, I can have a sex life and feel like I'm living a decent life even if I haven't got what I really want most of all yet.

The underlying selfishness and self centeredness is probably one of the reasons they can't smash for free

Girls want attention from certain men, and those men get the girls' attention in return.

When you pay a hooker she'll fuck you coz she's a hooker....

and relationships take time to build.....and most end and you start over...

Normal people change in life and they compromise in relationships.

A friend of mine said it best:

“Why get it for free when you can pay for it?”

That pretty well sums it up for me.

Look I'm done complaining about how the game is rigged or unfair or stuff like that. I've found a way to satisfy my physical needs without compromising anything that I believe in and its working for me so I'm doing okay now. I am happy to explain why I've chosen to stop playing but by struggling to change the game I'm still ultimately playing it albeit from the losing position and I don't want to do that at all anymore. I'm opting out of it entirely.

Ok btw I'm just sating my opinion. Due to feeling in a rush I May have soundes like my opinion was authoritative in earlier comment, but I did not mean 4 it to be

Change yourself ..... and don't play games. Sincerity works best. As long as bitches are attracted to you.

I like going to strip clubs because of the fun environment, the fun dialogue I get to have, The absolute beauty of the female body that I love looking at, and the fact that I work 16 hours a day and don’t have time to get to know a lot of people outside of my family and immediate friends. FOr what it is worth, I have never asked for extras or service. I have,however, been offered such many times and I do not turn it away .... because it feels good. I like the human contact. Strippers offer a service that I like paying for. I make no excuses for doing such nor do I apologize for it.

I like going to strip clubs because of the fun environment, the fun dialogue I get to have, The absolute beauty of the female body that I love looking at, and the fact that I work 16 hours a day and don’t have time to get to know a lot of people outside of my family and immediate friends. FOr what it is worth, I have never asked for extras or service. I have,however, been offered such many times and I do not turn it away .... because it feels good. I like the human contact. Strippers offer a service that I like paying for. I make no excuses for doing such nor do I apologize for it.

^Cute girls really are amazing aren't they?

Yes. And the most amazing part for me is that i see most girls as such. I’m lucky that way.

i just love strippers and hoes

Nicole, for me strip clubs and AMPs were just a way of surviving a death trap marriage. Beyond that, they will be very important when I will be traveling to expand a business and will want to make things happen with local women fast.

But always I treat sex workers just as a would any other woman, never acting like money buys them.

SJG

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getting attention from attractive women over short periods of time, even while paying for it, is so much better than putting up with one woman's crap for a long period of time.

That is twice recently I have agreed with Nudge.... lets not make a habit of this lol

When I was married my wife viewed sex as procreational only never recreational. I always viewed sex as a way of expressing love. So now I view Sex as recreational.... some guys play golf a couple times a week, some ride motorcycles, every body has a hobby, my hobby is fucking beautiful women half my age. So honestly I do not give a shit if you or any one of my service providers think I'm pathetic because I have to give a shit about you first before I care about your opinion. And I don't give a shit about you

So you fuck women you don't give a shit about?

yes I do.... Some of them I do care about though

It is not that I dislike them like the OP stated, It's just that I have no feelings for them good or bad

I see. Makes more sense

100% agree with nudge

When you use terms like “earn”, the game is laid bare. YOU make it a commodity. And like any commodity, it is exposed to market conditions, including the fact that anyone with a pussy can set a price for their commodity.
You’re mad because on one side, some strippers price their pussy cheaper than earning yours, on the other, some strippers deliver a better product than yours.
The minute you decided your pussy needed to be “earned”, you took it to Market. You whine because your product is inferior ( you wouldn’t have time to write like this if your pussy was occupied).
Improve your product
Change your pricing
Market to a new demographic
Stop blaming the consumer
Silly Rabbit

You have less knowledge about life Nicole than my shoes. In 2 weeks wife and I hit 29 years together. Last time we had a blast together was last night before I went to play poker. Next time will be tonight after dinner ...ooops no survivor is on ansd I will be at the strip club ....if it were warmer I'd be at Fenway .... or I might hit a casino ... the point being is that I like naked women, alcohol and weed and thats why I strip club. Its a hobby and nothing more. Its like dining out, which I also do, even though my wife is a better chef than 99% of those claiming to be chefs or able to cook.

I donno. I think men who think a woman has to earn their attention are stupid and misguided. When a woman likes you, she's the one vying for your attention and does shit to attract you. Let her do it, meet her half way and pull away. You're the prize, not her pussy. Ultimately you bring more to the table than she does. Let her know you want her and like her but don't let her get it twisted and think she's the prize.

@Subraman take notes a real pimp is schooling you, iceberg slims tour de farce.

didn't mean to say its pathetic that men would rather pay for rather than earn a woman's attention, but rather that its pathetic that all clubbing customers care about to be happy is that the girl performs physically for them, not if she actually likes you or wanta to do it.

Sure u can pay for a girl to do the act but the fact that you guys are able to GET OFF WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF IF THE WOMAN ACTUALLY ENOYS AN ACT WHICH IS INHENRRLTY SUPPOSED TO BE ENJOYABLE FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IS A FOREIGN CONCEPT 2 ME.LOL.

Nicole, both scenarios are pathetic though. A huge part of being with a girl is the fact that she wants to be with you. She makes you feel like a man coz she's there and wants to be there. When you know its just for money, it has to make them feel like less than men.

The most pathetic of all are men who's self-esteem is so tied up in their sexual success with women that they feel the need to constantly brag about it and criticize guys who aren't successful, choose to pay girls, or whatever.

^ Actually equally pathetic or even more so to this are the Beta Cuck types that blame society for their inability to get a woman that is out of their league. The most pathetic are the types that will write pages about it and nauseum on a discussion forum.

Its not about self esteem. Its deeper for some. I don't have a problem with bragging. But I do thing constructive criticism to help someone up their game is a good thing. But nothing wrong with belittling tricks who try to belittle men who don't have to trick.

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