OT: Question for Attorneys and or Doctors

Not an attorney or doctor, however, engaging in a sting operation when your back is to the wall is very, very unwise.

I believe you are not getting the full story from Johnny; the roommate has the right to invite him into the home, so no breaking and entering took place.

Regarding the “stolen” property if the police didn’t find all the pills with him how can ther arrest him for stealing the 180 pills? Somethings don’t add up.

Police routinely plant drugs and arms on people to get an arrest.

In any case it would be an easy case for a good defense attorney if he really is innocent, but I doubt it.

Anyhow helping the police in a “sting” is admitting gilt to some crime and trying to reduce the punishment.

I would advise against snitching. Remember

“Snitches get stitches”

^ "Police routinely plant drugs and arms on people to get an arrest."

Bullshit. Maybe on "The Shield" or "Shades of Blue".

It would be advisable to.get an actual attorney who can help him with this. It’s expensive but this is too serious a matter for internet advice.

As far as planting things it does happen but I wouldn’t say routinely.

He needs a good criminal attorney who practices in the geographic area where this all happened. A criminal lawyer can keep the cops honest so he doesn’t help out and then get screwed.

Johnny’s story has a lot of interesting things;

The police didn’t ask the (victim) dealer why so many pills? The police apparently know the victim is a dealer and didn’t do anything but help him get more pills with the Doctor?

Johnny should have keep his mouth shut when detained by the Police and not allowed being searched. Unless the police are working with the criminals?

Somethings don’t add up.

I would stay away from Johnny, unless Johnny is a stripper that looks like Jessica Rabbit.

Johnny should talk to an attorney in person and not over the internet.

^ aww I think tittyfag has a crush on crazyjoe.

Everyone in prison is innocent. If you doubt that, just ask them.

Based on these facts what jury would convict? Maybe I'm too California. Aside from the 4 pills they found on him this sounds like a loser for the da

i'm a corporate lawyer not a criminal one and i don't know what jurisdiction you're in but i will say that the transaction you're contemplating should not be done on a handshake. get it in writing what will happen of you do what. also,def contacting an attorney in your area who specializes in crim law is a good idea.

I am no lawyer but I don't see how the dealer or the roommate buddy can be a credible witness. In small claims court two sides can throw accusations, and the judge weighs all the lies. This is a criminal question, evidence must be supported. I think in most jurisdictions the DA would not bother with this to trial and look to get a plea or deferred sentence.

get a successful lawyer from the area

Repeat:

Get a successful lawyer from the area

Repeat again: Get a successful lawyer from the area

Thank you everyone for your responses. I appreciate it.

After I posted this I remembered a friend of mine who has been probation officer for a long time and has worked in the in the area Johnny got into trouble. He is someone in Law Enforcement that I actually trust. I called him and got some interesting feedback. I figured I would share because it is good all around advice for anyone who finds themselves in a predicament with LE.

The following is based off of what my P.O. friend said. Several mentioned that it seemed like Johnny gave out too much information to the cops. This is correct. They found him where he live and he volunteered the pills. This happens with a lot of first time offenders. They get scared and and may think that honesty and volunteering everything is the right thing to do. You should make LE work for their evidence. Handing evidence over right away is an admission of guilt and will mess up your defense. Finding a local attorney that knows the political climate at the time with recent cases and rulings is crucial. Do not use a public defender unless it is absolutely necessary. They are public defenders because they suck at what they do. I have personally seen too many people get convicted or serve more severe sentences than they should have because of a fuck up from an incompetent attorney. Hire a good one!

Never assume the cops are the good guys. There are more dirty ones than most people think. In some cases or probably more than some, cops are legally allowed to lie to get a confession or worse to get you to say something that they can take and twist into something you did not say and bring more charges or make screw you otherwise. This is why you shut the hell up and let a good attorney speak for you to avoid some of these land mines.

First time offenders... and taking deals for helping the cops. My P.O. buddy tells me scenarios of cases he has dealt with no names. He told me of one tonight where a young man was implicated in a murder. When brought in for questioning he sung like a canary and told everything about who actually did the murder. The cops made a deal with him to help them get the guilty party and told him he could go home that night. He thought it was over but the cops placed undercover surveillance outside his house and ended up making up some other case of him and basically fucked him with some trumped up charges. Cops could say they upheld the original agreement and get him another way. My buddy told me this was a sad case, but this happens a lot. He said get any agreements in writing and they always have some type of fine print attached that allows them to fuck you later. A good attorney can navigate this for you. Watch those deals! Direct from a Law Enforcement officer.

Where Johnny got in trouble is a upper middle class area with low crime and too much funding for a larger police department than is needed for the crime levels. They need something to do... Cops are not always the good guys.

If someone is giving you free drugs, there is a catch somewhere.

^ the moral of this story is when dealing with LE keep your mouth shut, and get an experienced attorney, which is good advice for everyone.

How the hell is a doctor going to help you with this?

I can't imagine a better place to get advice on legal matters than a discussion board for Strip Club enthusiasts.

I can't imagine a better place to get advice on legal matters than a discussion board for Strip Club enthusiasts.