There are other ways to look at it. For example, women are just as lost in this world as men are. So what they really want is to be taken care of and protected. So they offer what they have to those they believe will do this.
So yes, they do evaluate you by what you can offer. But this is not quite the same as, "You Pay for it ....".
And this also suggests that women might be willing to consider other types of arrangements.
mrrock - all your obervations/assumptions are right!!! guys are always paying for it one way or another, unless you're an unemployed drug dealer living in your moms basement - oh wait you're still paying for it because you're giving your drugs away! lol
Shailynn, you called me buzzkill before. I wasn't even sure what it meant. I had someone look it up for me, and when they told me I told that that I was honored to be called that. And you don't know how much of an understatement it is.
If you deal with women they evaluate you by your social status and social position and your money and your nature of employment are one of their main ways.
Hell, for me being in high school and college sucked, because they evaluated me by my level of social conformity. So I was living the life of Elliot Rodger, being treated like a piece of garbage. And who knows, were the pressure a little bit worse, I could have cracked just like he did.
But once I was out in the working world, which I still think is nothing, I had young hotties coming on to me everywhere I went.
But this still does not mean that the guy with a GF or wife is really "paying for it" in the same way as P4P, or what I hear in mrock's post.
They are talking about high school shootings and explaining why they always seem to happen in these exurban low crime rate monoculture areas with a low number of guns in the schools, instead of in urban inner city areas with high crime rates and likely lots of clandestine guns and gang activity.
It is because these exurban schools are conformity mills. Either conform or suffer, whereas in the urban schools there are always alternative social niches one can use to gain cover.
Now is it the same in college? We have had lots of college shootings. Recently a violent knife incident at UC Merced.
But right after Elliot Rodger, I was talking with a student counselor and Latino activist from CSU Fresno about this. He agreed that school can be a mono culture pressure cooker, all the more if it is a school of mostly full time students from well off families, and that getting out into the more diverse work place arena can be better, even life saving.
Women in college environments, and especially sorority girls, are stuck up bitches.
Out in the work world, the single women are aggressive man chasers.
Now yes, they aim to get something, but it isn't simply being handed cash or having it spent on them.
You mean the fantasy that all women are about is money and that handing them money really puts you in control and that what you get from them this way is really a good way to go?
You mean that fantasy that strict P4P, along with alcohol, drugs, and probably Born Again Christianity too, are a nice way to live?
You people still don't understand just how much of a Buzzkill I really am, or the kinds of things I have done. Most of the time I just let people do what they do, no problem. But when necessary, I can be an extremely forceful person.
Anyway, I've got stuff to do f2f now, and I'm not willing to spend time dealing with this san_jose_gay. So I've got to step back for a while.
I think it's a basic rental arrangement. I think JS69 is an expert at setting the rental terms upfront. He knows what he's paying (hourly/or down to the minute) and he knows exactly how the rental body will be used. If there is any non performance - the terms are voided - and the pricing is adjusted downward.
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Dividing women into two categories does not do it.
SJG
Escape From Sobibor 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-ZFen6…
Lame.
So yes, they do evaluate you by what you can offer. But this is not quite the same as, "You Pay for it ....".
And this also suggests that women might be willing to consider other types of arrangements.
SJG
James Carter Organ Trio - Jazzwoche Burghausen 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_d0I97Z…
mrrock - all your obervations/assumptions are right!!! guys are always paying for it one way or another, unless you're an unemployed drug dealer living in your moms basement - oh wait you're still paying for it because you're giving your drugs away! lol
If you deal with women they evaluate you by your social status and social position and your money and your nature of employment are one of their main ways.
Hell, for me being in high school and college sucked, because they evaluated me by my level of social conformity. So I was living the life of Elliot Rodger, being treated like a piece of garbage. And who knows, were the pressure a little bit worse, I could have cracked just like he did.
But once I was out in the working world, which I still think is nothing, I had young hotties coming on to me everywhere I went.
But this still does not mean that the guy with a GF or wife is really "paying for it" in the same way as P4P, or what I hear in mrock's post.
SJG
noooooo way! say it ain't so
Actually this is a book I read years ago, long before Elliot Rodger appeared:
http://www.amazon.com/Rampage-Social-Roo…
They are talking about high school shootings and explaining why they always seem to happen in these exurban low crime rate monoculture areas with a low number of guns in the schools, instead of in urban inner city areas with high crime rates and likely lots of clandestine guns and gang activity.
It is because these exurban schools are conformity mills. Either conform or suffer, whereas in the urban schools there are always alternative social niches one can use to gain cover.
Now is it the same in college? We have had lots of college shootings. Recently a violent knife incident at UC Merced.
But right after Elliot Rodger, I was talking with a student counselor and Latino activist from CSU Fresno about this. He agreed that school can be a mono culture pressure cooker, all the more if it is a school of mostly full time students from well off families, and that getting out into the more diverse work place arena can be better, even life saving.
Women in college environments, and especially sorority girls, are stuck up bitches.
Out in the work world, the single women are aggressive man chasers.
Now yes, they aim to get something, but it isn't simply being handed cash or having it spent on them.
SJG
Beware Brother Beware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlKmnXV5…
Jimmy Smith Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nl67fgH…
You mean the fantasy that all women are about is money and that handing them money really puts you in control and that what you get from them this way is really a good way to go?
You mean that fantasy that strict P4P, along with alcohol, drugs, and probably Born Again Christianity too, are a nice way to live?
SJG
Louis Jordan -What's The Use Of Getting Sober
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5p3i_t3…
https://youtu.be/_Y63B-5CWRU
Anyway, I've got stuff to do f2f now, and I'm not willing to spend time dealing with this san_jose_gay. So I've got to step back for a while.
SJG
Charles Mingus - Moanin'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OSyznVDOY&ebc=…