Yes, that area has in times past had Mexican bars with the underground table dancing circuit. It has also had lots of AMP's, and an infamous Vietnamese Night Club where P4P FS was reported to be taking place. The way the women dressed, showing cleavage and side boob down the navel, left very little room for other interpretation.
In Night Clubs, Viet Coffee Shops, and Mexican Bars, it is fairly easy to introduce table dancing. And then who is really going to be interested in enforcing any rules. And the girls who come to work in such places are pretty wild. They don't want to follow any rules except their own, and they are usually actively advertising OTC. "I'm looking for gigs." It was one such dancer who first told me about the Mexican bar shows.
Of this Lu Beer and Restaurant, just a few minutes closer to the downtown, I had known about this and the shooting. I had not known that it had nudity or lap dancing, but that does not surprise me.
Sometimes Viet Coffee Shops have had Mexican bar style "bikini shows". I helped recruit dancers for one. And then sometimes their own waitresses start wearing less and less and dancing up on chairs. But still not lap dancing when their waitresses are doing it. And then in the Asian community hostess bars are an excepted practice. We have not had that many of those, but there have been some. I just happened to be at a strip mall shopping center when one was busted for prostitution charges.
And then in Sunnyvale there was a long running one connected with the Korean syndicate which runs the 10 day AAMPs, and where a Sunnyvale PD Officer was on the take and doing some other really horrible things.
As far as why these situations seem to lead to gun violence, I say it is just because all the participants ( management, girls, customers ) have voluntarily stepped into a clandestine realm, and there is lots of money involved. So no one wants to deal with police, and so their are rivalries and conflicts, and there are threats and intimidation and it escalates.
Sex and beautiful women don't inherently cause violence. But clandestine operations which take in lots of money can lead to it.
Now as far as the legality of these places, certainly the alcohol licensing rules prohibit "adult entertainers" from making physical contact with customers or from stripping down beyond bikini. But these are not criminal matters, just alcohol license matters. So there can be fines, license suspension, and license revocation.
But actually the authorities seem to respond more harshly when this bleeds over into non-alcohol establishments. A big bust against the talent agents for the Mexican bar shows happened only when they expanded into a Viet Coffee Shop.
The City will say that to do such shows you would need an Adult Entertainment permit. And if you get this it makes you subject to lots and lots more rules. So it is almost like having an alcohol license. But I say the city is wrong here. They are just trying to attack a type of business just because the don't like it. I say that requiring such a permit is unconstitutional. Earlier versions of these laws have been overturned by the state's highest court. Now though, most of these operators are not interested in challenging such laws. They are not like Jim and Artie Mitchell, making this into a political issue. They just want to make money. So they do what they do and try to keep it hidden.
Now our DA's office also still holds to their position that touching or being touched, or even flashing, for tips, constitutes prostitution or lewd conduct, PC-647b. Well, never have they convinced a jury to see it that way. But what they do is just hit people with so many so severe charges that they are intimidated into pleading guilty to get the charges lowered. Our DA's office knows that they just have to lose one jury trial and things could end up the same as they are in San Francisco. This is their greatest fear. This is why they are more frightened about what might happen in places which don't have alcohol licenses, as the legal basis for containing it is more tenuous.
And Nora Campos is despicable! Trying to push her ass clown of a brother Xavier into politics and trying to intimidate those who would run against him, making herself part of what has been called a Political Mafia.
Thank you jackslash for posting this. Maybe now people will finally believe me about the underground table dancing shows in San Jose's Mexican bars, referred to by Mexicans as "Bikini Show".
Our LE is so tough on advertised strip clubs, that people set up these clandestine operations.
In the area I am in, sometimes Vietnamese and Latino stuff fuse together. Like lots of Mexican men come to some of the Viet Coffee shops, the ones where the girls are less clothed. And then at the Viet Night Club Lido on 1st St., it is on top of a Mexican Bar. And there was a time when they had nude dancers, Vietnamese. Although I later learned it was just one dancer.
And then there is reportedly in Monterey a Viet Hostess Bar, and some Coffee Girls work there. It would not surprise me at all, especially in a place as small as Monterey, if that is also a Latino bar, like during the day time, and maybe with a regular hooker or two available.
In San Jose so many such places have been closed down.
And then in San Jose the Viet AMPs do service lots of Latinos and the girls that are good at it have Latino regulars.
And then of course Mexican Bar style Bikini Shows, with at least 50% Latinas, have been put on in Viet Coffee Shops. I even helped to recruit dancers for one such case.
It's just that LE considers the Sunnyvale Cheetahs to be basically legal, whereas with these other things they don't.
The more one looks at this, the more in my opinion one will just want to find girls they like and see them outside the club. The ones I called Beloved Latina Escorts, they were doing sessions in their homes all the time. So this way, every penny spent goes to the girl, or to the bills she would have to pay. No other costs or cash flows.
Viet AMP girls often invited me to these sorts of home sessions. This was how they paid their extreme Silicon Valley mortgages. And the girls who did that tended to be smarter and better looking than average, blessed with both brains and beauty. They were always a pleasure to be with.
I did not take them up on their offers, because I was married and I felt that though P4P, that I would be making the girl into my mistress, and that this could end up hurting her and getting me into trouble.
But the Escort Auditions they gave me in the massage rooms were always phenomenal. And often it was clear that though the girl was phrasing the offer like an escort offer, that from the way she was talking to me that there was also behind it a GF offer.
But many girls do OTC and many others are perfectly civilian dateable. And the clubs are lower cost per visit.
And the clubs are still lots of fun. Talking and flirting and getting to know a girl is actually easier when she can't just make money by selling dances.
Anyway, because LE is so tough and because it is so hard to even open another club like what we have, people set up these underground places which have zero advertising. Because they are unadvertised LE cuts them more slack than they otherwise would.
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Yes, that area has in times past had Mexican bars with the underground table dancing circuit. It has also had lots of AMP's, and an infamous Vietnamese Night Club where P4P FS was reported to be taking place. The way the women dressed, showing cleavage and side boob down the navel, left very little room for other interpretation.
In Night Clubs, Viet Coffee Shops, and Mexican Bars, it is fairly easy to introduce table dancing. And then who is really going to be interested in enforcing any rules. And the girls who come to work in such places are pretty wild. They don't want to follow any rules except their own, and they are usually actively advertising OTC. "I'm looking for gigs." It was one such dancer who first told me about the Mexican bar shows.
Of this Lu Beer and Restaurant, just a few minutes closer to the downtown, I had known about this and the shooting. I had not known that it had nudity or lap dancing, but that does not surprise me.
Sometimes Viet Coffee Shops have had Mexican bar style "bikini shows". I helped recruit dancers for one. And then sometimes their own waitresses start wearing less and less and dancing up on chairs. But still not lap dancing when their waitresses are doing it. And then in the Asian community hostess bars are an excepted practice. We have not had that many of those, but there have been some. I just happened to be at a strip mall shopping center when one was busted for prostitution charges.
And then in Sunnyvale there was a long running one connected with the Korean syndicate which runs the 10 day AAMPs, and where a Sunnyvale PD Officer was on the take and doing some other really horrible things.
As far as why these situations seem to lead to gun violence, I say it is just because all the participants ( management, girls, customers ) have voluntarily stepped into a clandestine realm, and there is lots of money involved. So no one wants to deal with police, and so their are rivalries and conflicts, and there are threats and intimidation and it escalates.
Sex and beautiful women don't inherently cause violence. But clandestine operations which take in lots of money can lead to it.
Now as far as the legality of these places, certainly the alcohol licensing rules prohibit "adult entertainers" from making physical contact with customers or from stripping down beyond bikini. But these are not criminal matters, just alcohol license matters. So there can be fines, license suspension, and license revocation.
But actually the authorities seem to respond more harshly when this bleeds over into non-alcohol establishments. A big bust against the talent agents for the Mexican bar shows happened only when they expanded into a Viet Coffee Shop.
The City will say that to do such shows you would need an Adult Entertainment permit. And if you get this it makes you subject to lots and lots more rules. So it is almost like having an alcohol license. But I say the city is wrong here. They are just trying to attack a type of business just because the don't like it. I say that requiring such a permit is unconstitutional. Earlier versions of these laws have been overturned by the state's highest court. Now though, most of these operators are not interested in challenging such laws. They are not like Jim and Artie Mitchell, making this into a political issue. They just want to make money. So they do what they do and try to keep it hidden.
Now our DA's office also still holds to their position that touching or being touched, or even flashing, for tips, constitutes prostitution or lewd conduct, PC-647b. Well, never have they convinced a jury to see it that way. But what they do is just hit people with so many so severe charges that they are intimidated into pleading guilty to get the charges lowered. Our DA's office knows that they just have to lose one jury trial and things could end up the same as they are in San Francisco. This is their greatest fear. This is why they are more frightened about what might happen in places which don't have alcohol licenses, as the legal basis for containing it is more tenuous.
And Nora Campos is despicable! Trying to push her ass clown of a brother Xavier into politics and trying to intimidate those who would run against him, making herself part of what has been called a Political Mafia.
Thank you jackslash for posting this. Maybe now people will finally believe me about the underground table dancing shows in San Jose's Mexican bars, referred to by Mexicans as "Bikini Show".
Our LE is so tough on advertised strip clubs, that people set up these clandestine operations.
SJG
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Howlin' Wolf
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If there was Mexican Hat dances going on there, I'm sure he was somewhere in the background...
And then there is reportedly in Monterey a Viet Hostess Bar, and some Coffee Girls work there. It would not surprise me at all, especially in a place as small as Monterey, if that is also a Latino bar, like during the day time, and maybe with a regular hooker or two available.
In San Jose so many such places have been closed down.
And then in San Jose the Viet AMPs do service lots of Latinos and the girls that are good at it have Latino regulars.
And then of course Mexican Bar style Bikini Shows, with at least 50% Latinas, have been put on in Viet Coffee Shops. I even helped to recruit dancers for one such case.
SJG
Playing with a girl in the front room, while handing her money, is in my opinion always a better way. At least for starting off.
SJG
The more one looks at this, the more in my opinion one will just want to find girls they like and see them outside the club. The ones I called Beloved Latina Escorts, they were doing sessions in their homes all the time. So this way, every penny spent goes to the girl, or to the bills she would have to pay. No other costs or cash flows.
Viet AMP girls often invited me to these sorts of home sessions. This was how they paid their extreme Silicon Valley mortgages. And the girls who did that tended to be smarter and better looking than average, blessed with both brains and beauty. They were always a pleasure to be with.
I did not take them up on their offers, because I was married and I felt that though P4P, that I would be making the girl into my mistress, and that this could end up hurting her and getting me into trouble.
But the Escort Auditions they gave me in the massage rooms were always phenomenal. And often it was clear that though the girl was phrasing the offer like an escort offer, that from the way she was talking to me that there was also behind it a GF offer.
SJG
"In the area I am in, sometimes Vietnamese and Latino stuff fuse together"
I hear there's a new young golfer named Ho Chi Chi Rodriguez Minh
Ha Ha Ha!
SJG
as far as touching or mileage.
But many girls do OTC and many others are perfectly civilian dateable. And the clubs are lower cost per visit.
And the clubs are still lots of fun. Talking and flirting and getting to know a girl is actually easier when she can't just make money by selling dances.
Anyway, because LE is so tough and because it is so hard to even open another club like what we have, people set up these underground places which have zero advertising. Because they are unadvertised LE cuts them more slack than they otherwise would.
SJG
Nirvana - Aneurysm
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