Off topic: Asian massage parlor Base Cost

IME the base goes strait to the house. $40 and hour sounds kind of cheep, but I guess that all depends on your geographic location. As far as the massage it self, it really depends on the girl. I have had really good massages (ones that I have paid a lot more for at a real legitimate place) and others that were either non existent or done wrong and were painful. But, really, your not there for the massage. As far as the HE, you should expect 40-60 for a HJ, 60-80 for a CBJ, and 100+ for CFS, there again, it all depends on your location and the girl. Would recommend doing your research on the AMPS in your area first to make sure that extras are even on the menu, nothing suck more that finding out the place is legit. as I do have some experience feel free to message me if you want additional guidance.

I go to AMP's a few times a month. A good place to start is Rubmaps.com. there you can enter your city & state & vies the amp's near you. The starting price I have found is about $60. they will ask you if you have been there before. If you just want a massage then say this is my first time. If you want extras tell them you have been there before. be ready to pay about $200 for cfs. I hope this helps. let me know If I can be of any help.

The culture, quality, and cost of AMPs varies from place to place. Usually the more of them, the better it is going to be, as that indicates competition and less pressure from LE.

In my experience the girls do very good traditional massage. Often these girls are petite, so if you want an especially forceful massage, then they can walk on your back.

However, the business and the girl are not set up so that they could stay in business just by doing that. Clandestine businesses have higher risks and costs associated with them. So the girl gets little or nothing of the house fee. If that is all you want and you don't give her any more money, she might feel like she has done something wrong or that you don't like her. Probably she will have been offering more to you, and indicating that you should tip her for that. If you don't, it will hurt her feelings, and then eventually she will get pissed.

This issue is where straights get into trouble in AMPs. The girl expects more money from you, and she is willing to earn it. But some people walk in without understanding this, and then they take offense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dC8MF4q…

Now having said that, when I first went to an AMP, I didn't give them any more money, and I didn't ask for anything more. My first Happy Ending was administered by a young Vietnamese fashion plate, and without her ever asking for any more money, or getting any. She just wanted to make a good impression on me, and so just she did it. What happens with these sorts of young ones is that pretty soon someone marries them.

It took a while before I figured out that it is possible to get FS in such places. Then soon I was cruising AMPs in three counties and banging any that struck my fancy, and usually it was extremely GFE. Sometimes I would flirt with her before getting her into the room, and then, with some artistry to it, I would just back her up against a wall and start DFKing her. Often that would surprise her, but once her shoulders dropped what ensued would be sublime.

I see where your three reviewed clubs are. So I look that up with Advanced Search on RubMaps. I find 51 MP's. This is encouraging.

http://www.rubmaps.com/advanced-search-1…

Now to cut it down I specify FS, this means that in at least 1 review someone has checked the box for FS. I find 24, and they are Asian, Latina, Ebony, Russian, and Caucasian. This is also encouraging.

So now I try, FIV, Kissing, and FS. I find 12, but only 7 are still open.
http://www.rubmaps.com/advanced-search-1…

This is not as good as some other metros. This suggests substantial problem with LE going after these places. However, it is still good, and I still believe that you will be able to get whatever you want, including an escort quality GFE-FS experience.

The best looks to be Massage for you II, but this is Caucasian, so it may operate quite differently. Without paying money to RubMaps we can read the old reviews.

I look more at the top 5 shops, and they are not purely Asian.

I look at this essence of health, Asian and Latina.

http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-th…

The reviews I can read are all Latina. Let me go back to the list of those where FS is claimed:

Rose Garden Health Club, Asian Korean, 34 reviews, the last one week ago.
http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-ro…

This looks quite good, and this Jasmin gave a guy FS.

From my own experience with local AMPs, and in reading the reviews, I feel that RubMaps is a gross underestimate of what is possible. It is just you and the girl in the room, and so it depends upon how you interact with her. I treat them like civilians, like she was a girl I just met at a party. I flirt with them and flatter them and tell them everything they would want to know about a guy they just met.

San Francisco is expensive, San Jose less, and I suspect Phoenix is less still. I would skip the Caucasian places. But then this Jasmin got a $150 tip.

I suspect that you can get hand job for $60, BJ for $80, and FS for $100. But I never talk to them like that. I never offer them money. I never mention money until the point that they do. Sometimes they don't even mention it, I just give it to them at the end.

RubMaps is an underestimate because the vast majority of the girls don't like to be written about, and because I can see from the narratives that the guys who write the reviews are not really on the same wave length as the girls.

Looking on RubMaps and seeing that FS has occurred, is good. But what I really go by are just attempts to flirt with the girl in the front lobby, as well as by her demeanor and by how she is dressed. Should be in a dress, not pants. By open body posture and direct eye contact she should look like she wants you to fuck her. And then there is just what happens when you try to talk to her. They won't let you talk much, but I always have something or another to try on them. I usually don't carry money on the first visit. I make it just window shopping, and I try to make my exit with some excuse so that I don't insult them by refusing.

AMP Advice thread:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

Discussion about how to interpret RubMaps, pertaining to Boston
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

Here on Shailynn's article I discuss my preference for getting the girl off script, in both SC's and in AMP's.

AMP's and SC's allow window shopping and this is their advantage over AAMP's and Escorts. It is not just that you can see first. It is also so that you can try and interact with the girl and let her start to form some opinion of you.

Impala's thread, if no SC's, then Escort or AMP. I say AMP because of the importance of window shopping and non-committal flirting.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

The very best is if she can see that you are coming back with money specifically because of her. If you can work it that way, she may very well decide to make it a Girl Friend Audition ( GFA ). This is always sublime, like a first date. And she may use various devices to communicate to you that what she really wants is for you to take her home with you. Be for warned that with some of these girls it is not possible to be around them and to not find yourself wanting to marry them.

Enjoy!

SJG

All I know is that in Santa clara county AMPs its $20 extra for a car wash, $100 to kiss, and $300 to bring the girl back to your mom's basement. I'd call before you go for prices on getting a massage in your motorhome.

Thanks for the cliff notes lol. I had lighter reading in college.

The Purple Dress Donna Car Washing experience is instructive. For IronFox22, I'll retell it. I was considering sessioning at an AMP in Sunnyvale. Probably I would have just window shopped. But I parked the car and then I saw this woman who had stepped out a side door. She had taken her high heels off and she had a bucket. For some reason I didn't see the parked car as part of the scene. She was washing it. But I thought she was washing her feet in the bucket. I decided that I just had to have her.

So I went into the lobby and asked about the girl washing her feet. They didn't understand me and they showed me all four of their girls one by one. Then finally one of them figured out who I was talking about and so they went and brought her to me. Don't know what they must have said to her, but it certainly was effective. Once in the room we immediately melted right into each other with intense DFKing. Then what followed was absolutely delectable. And for at least the 15 years which followed, all the women who worked in the Vietnamese AMPs would know the story. Donna would always change names when she went to a new shop. But I could find out about her just by making some calls and telling the tale of how I'd first met her and of the car washing. The girl on the other end of the line would add the detail of the Purple Dress.

My point in telling this story is to show that the selection process is everything. The girl only knows of you what she sees and hears. If she thinks you are just looking for something female to give you services, then that is how it will be. But if she can see that you really like her over and above the others, then very likely she will let her emotional defenses drop and then just let it happen. So if you want this, then you need to figure out ways to break out of the boxed in selection process which they provide you with.

chattguy123
I graduated from college a long time ago. But that does not mean that I've stopped learning. Very rarely anymore do I read anything lightweight enough that it could be assigned in a college class.

JS69
I hear that there are some adult book stores now where you can buy centerfold like pictures, but without the staple. Think about how much better your DS would be if it were not for that staple through her center.

SJG

Clapton, Beck, and more, at Madison Square Garden, 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcEW2dj6…