My trip to Tijuana

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MDR
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Ok so this is going to be for the extreme newbie gringo because well, that's what I am, I don't speak Spanish and I'm pretty much just a nerdy/hippy white guy. I heard that the sex tourism was pretty good in TJ and being in SD for awhile I figured WTH. My experience is only with HK but here are some good tips for those like me looking to make the adventure.

-DO NOT worry about getting pesos, every price is quoted in USD and trying to constantly do the conversion math is a pain,especially after you're drunk,they want USD,they take USD. However, the club nor hotel takes credit cards, not for rooms, at the bar or the atm, plan accordingly.

-I took the trolley to San Ysidro it took 15 min max to get across the border @ 7pm on a Tuesday, I came back at 9am Wednesday and again, walked right through.

-IF you can go on a Monday or a Tuesday and can stay the night, get their VIP card(50$) this gives you 80% off on your room,a free drink and half price lap dances.
it also gives 20% discount on rooms every other night access to extra VIP rooms ect.

- The protocol of this place other than having stages/tables you can chill at is to have "drinks" with the women, it's a way to vet girls to see who you'd like to sleep with or get dances from ect, these drinks cost 9 dollars and there is no set time limit or acts that this actually buys you however, as in other reviews that you may or may not have read this is a great way to see the girls behavior (is she sucking down drinks left n right without doing much or is she slowly drinking hers while rubbing your junk and giving you a lapdance, it ranges greatly) so when getting the VIP card dances that are normally $21 become $11 so for 2 more dollars you go to a private room,where again, things range greatly but what your getting becomes more clear and I had this range from a basic dance(which in TJ involves touching everything) to girls jerking me off,me fingering them/playing with pussy 1 girl even was down to blow me but had no condom,this I had to decline, I roll safe as possible DON'T BE A FOOL,WRAP THE TOOL.

-A lot of the stuff I read being a couple to a few years old said 5 for a cab from the border to HK, I asked 3 drivers at the border all refused and said it was 10, whatcha gonna do, it was 10. Didn't even hassle on the way home, it was 10.

-YES the women were extremely hot and even on Tuesday there were to many to even keep track of. I had sex with 7 women, a few quoted me $100 but everyone ended up being $80, attempts at getting it cheaper didn't work but I also never tried to negotiate with a woman anyone would consider under a 9 lol. (again this was on a Tuesday night)

-Perks to having your own room,no knocks or calls when time is coming up,2 of the girls I was with were on the dot,when 30 min was up it was over whether the finish had happened or not, most of them just went with it and good times were had by all, well at least me.

-down side,getting your room cleaned when all your stuff is in there at a place like this to me was sketchy, I got around it by giving the hall guy a dollar before each session for a sheet I placed over the bed like they do in vegas, worked well.

-other reviews and tip blogs I read said take your own condoms/lube so I did, however they are available @ a dollar each at the front desk,some of the girls had their own condoms/lube which were Trojan and name brand.

-Now one of the things that made my night so easy and fun was my waiter, they are everywhere,probably as many waiters as dancers but the dude I lucked out with #139 Izai pronounced eze lol(ask for him if you go) spoke killer English and was honest with the peso math(I was going to Mexico, I figured I needed Pesos and this was info I couldn't find on the net) he knew the girls well and could wrangle up whatever I wanted, the first thing I asked for was a sexy girl who spoke good English, boom, 2 min later I had just that, her name was "Aimee" again, ask for her.I spent half my night with her, she showed me around, broke the language barrier between the women who spoke no English(there were lots) and was a lot of fun. When it came time for the get down she was right on point with that as well!

-A couple of the girls I added time on with(Aimee being one) all of them dropped the rate to continue ranging from 60-40 dollars which as you guess gets you an extra 30 or so min or another bust whichever, I asked a few girls about an all night deal and this seems to go for an even 300. Some said 5 I didn't try and negotiate because I wasn't much interested it was just info hunting.

Welp folks I think that's about it, I had a great time, Aimee joined me in an around the club titty grab where I literally walked around with her giving every girl a dollar to feel them up/motorboat, I easily fondled 75+ pairs of titties, the stage shows these girls put on are legit, climbing to the top of the rafters on the pole,sliding down upside down ect, real gymnast type shit,the shaving cream show is fun, they even tried to put me on stage at one point, not sure what would have happened but this I declined lol. Only 2 floors of the club were open because of such a slow night, they play pretty good music, current american stuff/some older rap and then of course Spanish stuff that has good beats ect so its all chill, you can request songs but its a 5 dollar tip to the dj, better really want to hear the track lol. Have fun and be safe all. Cheers

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rogertex
8 years ago
Thanks for the updated info.

"DON'T BE A FOOL,WRAP THE TOOL."
... ha ha

"I had sex with 7 women"

wow. most I've done is 4. Recently it's 2 and done.

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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
MDR, thanks of the heads up about the VIP cards. I'd noticed that offering myself


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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
So MDR, did you stay the whole night?

And with this one girl you spent more time with, was that up and about in the club, or was it in your hotel room?

For the Hotel for the Tropicana Club, they talk about a safety box. Seems important to me. ?

Using that trolley, the blue line, makes lots of sense to me. Of course it depends on what your real point of origin is, and where you want to leave your car.

Ever consider the street girls? Look them over even, talk with them?

SJG
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
rookie guy only goes to the popular clubs
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
nemesisk7, that's why we need you here, to set us straight and let us know what we are missing.

Only one TUSCLer has said they've sessioned with a TJ Street Girl. But he declined to say anything more about it.

Seems like TJ is set up to let you have it whatever way you want, specifically to be able to stay with one girl for a lengthy period of time, or to do lots of them in quick sessions. All there, no appointment necessary.

If one is going to the HK Bar, their VIP Card seems like a good deal to me.

And then if you want to spend lots of time with a girl, you do need to make a provision for feeding her.

Maybe once in the upstairs VIP room, or one of the adjoining Private VIP Rooms, then into the restaurant, then into your hotel room. But I think you should still have some snacks available if you want to spend lots of time with her.

If I used their limo service, and if they really send a girl out to ride with you, then probably I'd end up spending the entire night and all my time there with her.

And then with the Street Girls and those in the other clubs, how best to orchestrate.

That Blue Line Trolley sounds nice, unless you are driving your car from out of town. Maybe then just park at the border.

Staying overnight in TJ sounds lots better than paying money for that motel in San Yisidro.

And what about the lesser prominent border crossings?

El Porvenir, about 50 miles East of Juarez. Part of Praxis Guerrero, a place which has been subjected to even more drug war violence than Juarez. Looks like about 2.5 miles from the border. Buses? Taxi's? Do they have any services?

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.2436951,…

Or here, this Aqua Prieta, this is right on the border and lots of people cross regularly. But there is not street view for it. To me it looks like an all needs met place though.

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.3336874,…

How about here:
Nuevo Laredo
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ALma9TUNkrM/maxre…

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zona+d…

Maybe things get a little wilder, more like and outdoor strip club than Tijuana, because there is a perimeter wall? Despite all the great offerings, Mexico is still a culturally conservative place.

SJG
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Street View looking into Nuevo Laredo Boys Town

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.4655434,…

SJG
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
Nice write-up and very good tips for the uninformed - seems you made a lot of your first trip - rarely a bad review for this place (HK) - HK/TJ should be on the bucket-list of every SC enthusiast.
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chris.s
8 years ago
Take the white striped cabs, i paid 6$ tip included. The vip card is good if you are going to be a regular, but if you're only going once or twice a year it's not worth it. I stayed a the rizo de oro (tropical bar hotel ) 30$ with the website coupon, hotel is on par with the hongkong and adelitas hotel. On my visits i have sesioned with girls from hongkong, adelitas, and some other smaller bars and usually one street girl. if you are a supernube then go directly to hongkong and you will be fine, but if you are adventurous then walk around the block go to the smaller bars stop and talk to the street girls,
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day_trader
8 years ago
I disagree about not converting USD to pesos. You can come out ahead if you do convert. Exchange rate from dollar to pesos is well over 18:1. Street girls still use the old 10:1 ratio, which works out to be 200 pesos or 20 dollars for a quickie. Basic service will likely only include covered bj, clothes on, one position probably missionary. Of course you can pay more and negotiate more services as well. As you can see paying 20 in USD is actually well over 360 pesos, which isn't a good deal for the PL, which would just be basic service. Cost is about $11 in dollars for basic if you convert, you pay an extra $9 if you pay in dollars straight up.

Bar girls are likely to quote you in USD. (60-90 range) It it's busy your likely to pay on the high range, if slow on the lower end, also depends on your negotiating skills. You can ask to pay in pesos, but if the girl gets out her smartphone and pulls up a currency app, your pretty much not going to get a deal obviously.

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MDR
8 years ago
Rogertex- haha yea man, by the time I was on the 5th girl it was kinda pointless in the traditional sense.

san_jose_guy, I spent a lot of time with Aimee in the club but the extra cash I paid was just so the sex would continue lol. I did stay the whole night, showed up about 8pm slept from 3am-9am and then went back to the border. I found the trolley really convenient. no idea on a safety box, the higher end rooms all come with a safe?

I thought the VIP was really worth it, I got their 100$ dollar room for 70(50 vip card+20 for the room) a free long island, which I think would have been 9 dollars, then the half price dances, which I had 5 dances so that's saving 50 bucks on dances alone.

day trader, the rate at the border was 18.1-1 but I did the exchange in Cralsbad and only got 16.7-1, this being my first time even going to the Mexico border, I had no idea about the exchange places right there. The whole pesos thing was the worst part of my trip lol.

I pretty much never left the club, a few times Izai and I went around to the different sides of the club and hotel/ restaurant because by the end of the night they literally had trouble making me change in pesos. I didn't attempt anything with a street girl(they are all over though) but I speak no spanish and well I'll pay a lil extra here and there to avoid hassles.

I plan to go back possibly the end of this month and not by myself so maybe I'll get out and about the block more, keep everyone posted!
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
So then you slept by yourself?

Am I correct in seeing that it is set up to encourage girls to sleep with customers? Do they really operate around the clock, without regard for the time of day? If so, they don't lose much in sleeping with customers, because they have to sleep sometime anyway, and then they can always make more money off of other guys when they wake up.

Do the girls stay there for 2 to 3 weeks at a time, just going from one customer to another for their food and sleep? It seems set up to promote that. Designed to be the closest possible approximation of Heaven on Earth.

Really 12 girls, that has got to be a record.

Did you consider the street hookers? See any you liked? Talk with them?

But of the HK Bar, would you want to exchange contact information so you could see any of them again? And if you cannot be going to TJ regularly, wouldn't it be better just to cultivate a regular girl closer to home?

SJG

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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Which is better, one girl multiple times, or multiple girls?
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

SJG

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nemesisk7
8 years ago
These idiots don't understand that they need to go deeper into mexico to get the best Mexican GFE , this moron thinking he went to hong kong is some kind of an expert now to the great Mexican scene
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
I know.

Smart Moves:

1. Took the Blue Line Trolley, usually a good idea.
2. Stayed the night in Tijuana, instead of in San Yisidro.
3. Checked into a hotel room instead of using short time rooms.

Not Smart Moves:

1. Slept alone in the Tijuana Cascadas Hotel. How many people have done this?
2. Used a waiter to find him girls, instead of approaching them himself. I'm sure that approaching the girl yourself will make a big difference.
3. Had one of the girls take him on a titty squeezing tour, instead of spending that time and money alone with her in the hotel suite.
4. Failed to have a condom when it was needed.
5. Failed to enroll in SJG's intensive Spanish course, held right across the street from one of the clubs in the San Gabriel Valley.

https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…

But nemesisk7, lets not criticize people just for posting truthfully. You tell us where to go and you tell us how to do it. I'm not there yet, but when I get there, I'll be being there regularly, and seeing the same girls regularly, so there is much I need to know.

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
HK and adelitas are the best clubs i've been to. now an update on walking across the border. as of today a new pedestrian crossing opened to the west of present crossing. on usa side is at Virgina street between the shoping malls. in TJ it is on east side of the tj river. word is the present pedrestrain crossing to the usa will close next month. disruption to existing patterns seems to be the normal with the border. at least it is a slightly shorter and direct walk (for me) from the usa parking to the clubs. in TJ west across the river then 4 blocks west to hk and adelitas. watch your step. :)
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
6 . Failed to fuck one of the hot street whores
7 . Failed to go anywhere else in the area
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Okay, but nemesisk7 please set us straight. Don't leave us in the dark to find our own way.

Only one TUSLER has admitted to sessioning with TJ Street Whores, and he declined to elaborate further.

SJG
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Not Smart Move 8.

"the shaving cream show is fun"

Close enough to that back stage to see how great it is, but obviously still not close enough to understand that that could not be shaving cream.

SJG
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dreamkiller
8 years ago
Hey guys Got some questions. Going again this weekend. Last time was 5 years ago.

I'm reading that there is a different entry into Mexico? Is it no longer the big metal revolving gate that says MEXICO on top, where you then walk through bridges and narrow passages?

Also, the first cab stand that you encounter is the one with the big signs. I know that the prices are higher than what they should be. Can you negotiate with them? I'll be by myself. The last time, I walked past them, through that little village and got a cab after crossing the bridge, but now I realize that I probably shouldn't have walked that part alone at night to save a couple of bucks. Locals normally sit in the front seat, right?

I know to visit Adelita and HK. If I wanted to see the street action, is it the street behind the clubs? So I would take a right out of Adelita, then make a right at the corner, and then a right at the end of the block? Is there a backdoor at HK that I can just walk out of?

Coming back, I have a Global Entry Card. Does that allow me to use the SENTRI lanes?

I'm sure that there is an article that says all this, but I haven't found a recent one published in the last 6 months, so sorry if I'm repeating. THanks

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Jascoi
8 years ago
only one entry into mexico... still the revolving gates one. says MEXICO. take yer passport. mexico checks it now.
cabs... at end of pedrestrain walkway south of mex customs bldg. offer $5. total. say hong kong. somebody will say yes. us gringos usually ride in the back.
yes on hk backdoor and your directions from adelitas.
i use the ready lane with my 'passport card'.
idk for sure if yer card is sentri or not. one way to find out. try it.
also consider a visit to the new deja vu tj. butt i still say hong kong is so awesome.
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Jascoi
8 years ago
i admit that i am still a rookie and greatly prefer hong kong first, then adelitas and the new deja vu tj tied for second. and yes i have experienced some cute street girls. 4 i think. been a while since those encounters. i simply prefer the club girls overall. they get checked. watch your step as you walk around especially outside. enjoy! (and it is shaving cream.)
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
justme62,

Thank you for sharing your experiences. Might you be willing to compare the pluses and minuses of HK, Adelita's, and Deja Vu?

And shaving cream, how could that be?

They used some shaving cream for this album cover, but that was only just to take a picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29sKjSwK…

SJG
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dreamkiller
8 years ago
Cool, thanks for the clarification, 62. Found out that Global Entry does qualify me to walk to the front of the line and use the kiosks.

Another question. Has anyone been to a place called Bar La Valentina? Apparently, it's more of a nightclub in the same area and is pretty cool. Wouldn't mind checking out a regular place too while I'm out there.
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Jascoi
8 years ago
i was told valentina bar has same owner as la chavales, tropical bar, and a few others. they are more traditional. hong kong also the same owner. butt certainly cutting edge.
whipped cream spoils and detierates quickly. besides... they squirt the shaving cream onto the stage... from actual shaving aerosol cream cans!
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Jascoi
8 years ago
oops. wrong order. should be actual shaving cream aerosol cans.

notice the more traditional style bars/clubs have a dance floor with couples dancing. adelitas kinda splits it in between traditional in some ways but favoring a twist. adelitas has stages. ditto d+g, playboy and a few others. then hong kong runs circles above the rest because of the many girls wiggling and dancing with much more energy on the bars and stages! deja vu tj might approach hk's style.
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
you can get GFE in the EL BURRO whorehouse
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
But you have to understand and speak fluently mexican spanish with a tone of Tijuana
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Jascoi
8 years ago
true. i need to learn Spanish. and like you say... tj mex spanish. it would certainly add greatly to the experience.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
EL BURRO whorehouse?

valentina bar?

The more traditional Mexican brothels are hostess dancing. You are paying them something, so in principle you could keep dancing with your girl. But no Latina will ever need more than one song to reduce a guy to jello.

https://www.amazon.com/Guaymas-Chronicle…

SJG

Herb Alpert - Tijuana Brass Medley, 1997, very good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuByWtxx…
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
definitely 62
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
@ sanjoseguy Deja vu is an american franchise, why dont they advertise FS in their LA clubs like they do with Tijuanas ? Hypocrites , when i walk in a deja vu in the states I am expecting to ejaculate HJ, CBJ ,BBBJ or Pussy
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Advertise FS in their LA clubs? You know that they can't do anything like that. They try to please the customer, but they don't want their clubs closed or people in prison. They have to keep it within bounds.

It is our entire country which is hypocritical.

They are saying that they have studied the HK bar, every millimeter of the operation, and they understand the importance of front room GFE and how it all depends upon that, and that they are not going to do anything to change that.

http://dejavutijuana.com/

Should be right around here, but these pictures are out of date.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5254327,…

https://www.bing.com/mapspreview?&ty=18&…

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
that Bing map is way off. The new deja vu Tijuana is on the north or east side of the river within one block walking distance Southeast up Pueblo amigo casino hotel. much closer to the border
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Jascoi
8 years ago
'up' should be of
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
Have you been to Purple Rain ? i think the deja vu is close to that club
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
the website says it is the largest strip club in the world ?
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Jascoi
8 years ago
it might be when you consider all the square footage in the show room, the VIP area, and in the spa area with all of its rooms. perhaps they also consider the other areas such as the dressing rooms, the offices and what not...
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Jascoi
8 years ago
I have not been to purple rain I will consider that in a future visit along with 'the cave' (I don't recall it's proper Spanish name.)
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Bing map incorrect? Thanks for letting us know.

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
the bing map is probably showing the old deja vu knock off club. The new actual true deja vu TJ is just one block south east of Pueblo amigo casino hotel. it's in the shopping center right adjacent to the pueblo amigo casino hotel. dvtj location it appears as The former dance club mayak. this is not a brand-new building nor is deja vu the first and only occupant. as I understand it they took over a dance club- nightclub that obviously failed to stay in business.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
old deja vu knock off club? Never heard of this before.

Pre-Columbian styled building, this Mayak.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5350886,…

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
bingo!!!! that's it San Jose guy
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Jascoi
8 years ago
I have my hopes at déjà vu won't screw this up. and also that Hong Kong always remain the premiere and the paramount club in regards to the rest of the world.
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
62 do they take pictures like hong kong ?
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Jascoi
8 years ago
I did not notice a photographer.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Pre-Columbian building, selecting one of their hotties, and getting GFE friendly with her, and then off to the session rooms, that could be a real trip. Thanks justme62 and nemesisk7 for all the info.

Deja Vu says that they are not going to screw this up, and that they understand how the HK Bar works. What I would look for are any indications that they are trying to regulate the front room interactions, limit the GFE. That front room GFE is what makes the backroom awesome. You get your girl completely off of her P4P script. After all, all the money is supposed to pay for is for her to be there and available. Beyond that, a civilian style interaction is what is needed. So as long as no one tries to limit this, I will be very happy and do expect to be enjoying that Pre-Columbian place.

As far as the US, Deja Vu has to keep its clubs open and people out of prison. What I was pleased to hear about was that in San Francisco they are still running most of the clubs, but as I can see, they don't use the Deja Vu name. So I interpret that this means that those clubs can be wilder and woolier, as are many clubs in the US. And when you have that, it is conducive to GFE. I saw this all the time in the underground Mexican circuit.

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
I hope you're right.
as an aside my GFE experiences have occurred after i have taken them Ariba. soooo sweet!
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Jascoi
8 years ago
if I don't get called to work tomorrow Tuesday mornins i plan on being down to Hong Kong and Adelitas and the new deja vu tijuana again. can never get enough of this wonderful opportunity to enjoy these beautiful ladies in such a permissive environment.
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xxxrated
8 years ago
Take note .....Tijuana is all about Hong kong and Adelitas...They have the hottest girls
and the better sexed up enviroment and its affordable.

De Ja vU is a very boring overpriced american strip club franchise. if i wanted to visit De ja vu i could just
stay in the United States and not travel to Mexico. Seems counter-productive.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
'better sexed up environment', what does this mean?

I've long been very critical of Deja Vu, over how they took over San Francisco. But now they have contacted me. They insist that they have been under cover and scrutinized every inch of the HK Bar operation. They understand it. They know that it runs on Front Room GFE. This determines the quality of the back room. They insist that they are not going to screw it up.

So what I would look for is, are there any mechanisms in place which tend to shunt guys into the session rooms, just so the house can get more money? That sort of stuff ruins the front room, and then that undermines the back rooms. So we just need to watch, but they insist they are not going to screw it up.

Of course in the US they don't want their clubs closed or people going to prison. So they need to keep it within some bounds.

The issue about San Francisco has been the clubs where they destroyed the front room interaction, and so this destroys the quality of the backroom. In San Francisco one does not need to be that conservative.

And at issue also has been, which clubs do they still control? Their name used to be on most all of them, but not anymore.

So a senior executive has affirmed that they still run everything except Crazy Horse and MBOT. And then the one club which still uses their name, Centerfolds, is of a different business model, the "high volume" business model.

So of course there are all sorts of things they are not ever going to discuss. But I infer for myself that all of these other clubs, especially the no alcohol clubs like 20's, Eden, New Century, are a new form of non-branded Deja Vu club. So that is, they run it, but they are not using Deja Vu as a brand name. This is new.

So I further infer that when they use Deja Vu as a brand name they need to be more conservative. But when they remove the brand name, then they can let it run just like other people do in the same metro. Front room GFE is not illegal, or at least most people wouldn't see it that way. But it does completely change the impression one will get when they walk in there. And it is the main determinant of the back room quality.

So it sounds like this Pre-Columbian building is the new TJ site:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5350886,…

Have you been to their old site, a few more blocks South?

SJG

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http://www.hcn.org/issues/44.10/flds-con…

Debra Weyermann
https://www.amazon.com/Answer-Them-Nothi…

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Life-Satan…
Secret Life of a Satanist, Blanche Barton. Has picture of young naked acolyte ready for initiation. She has porn start grade tits. Picture replicated in Hugh Urban's book.

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-conten…

Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?
https://youtu.be/yiirjB0uO8M?t=2m6s

A very dark play about some very crazy kinds of people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er7h5MB2…

Full Text
http://web.mit.edu/jscheib/Public/21m790…
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Jascoi
8 years ago
i never been to the knock off deja vu site in Tijuana. about six months ago I was handeda flyer when I was walking towards the taxi stand after clearing Mexican customs.
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nemesisk7
8 years ago
@62 did you like the deja vu FS rooms ?
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Overall, how do you compare Deja Vu TJ with the HK Bar, girls, front room GFE, and the sessions?

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
deja vu tj is ok and should get better with time, but still the hong kong is by far the BEST! the girls, the showroom, and actual hotel rooms for the xxx action!
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Might you be willing to explain more, the girls? Their looks, age, makeup and dress, how they conduct themselves? The hotel rooms? The action?

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
it can be top tier. depends on the luck of the draw. can change minute by minute. at the worst a seven. more times than not eights and sometimes nine's are there. in my experience even the worst days are great . all in all they have a very wonderful attitude. sex is a given here . lewd conduct is a given here. enjoying a woman so much is a given here.
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Jascoi
8 years ago
The hotel rooms my ass in my opinion are good they're quite clean maybe not perfect but certainly more than adequate . keep in mind I've only rented rooms by the half hour and occasionally overnight but I have not upgraded to any of the better rooms. heck the last time I was here Tuesday night I took advantage of the VIP discount and it was only $11 for the room overnight. and the actions always good. exploring so many wonderful gyrating female bodies. A dollar at a time.
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Jascoi
8 years ago
scratch 'my ass'. or maybe that should be delete 'my ass'. I hate how Siri changes my words even sometimes after I carefully proofread.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Dollar at a time? Doesn't get better than that. That was how it was in our underground Mexican Bar circuit.

And this emphasizes the importance of an unstructured front room interaction, before even considering any booths or back rooms. Most of the guys here talk about "buying dances" and letting girls "sell dances" to them. Morons, in my opinion. But just read the posts, it is all over.

$11 for an overnight room, using the VIP discount? Deja Vu or HK Bar? Either way, AWESOME!

Thanks,
SJG

The Laws of Magick ~ Hermetic philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAbJXTC…
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Jascoi
8 years ago
cascada above hong kong. available monday and Tuesday.
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Jascoi
8 years ago
and last tuesday i paid with pesos. 176 peso with my vip card. about $9 us.
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