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The $10 dances were over on the north wall in little open-faced booths. This is discontinued due to corona virus, or else they're trying to automatically upsell you. You're getting access to the VIP rooms for a payment to the bartender of $20 and then (supposedly) $20 per dance going to the girl. If you can negotiate this down to $15 per dance, congratulations to you. Be aware that after you've gotten "X" dances from one girl, its another $20 to the bartender to take another girl back there. HOWEVER, there is a possible way to game the system if a pair of girls wants to go back with you at the same time. One girl is the dancer, and the other girl says she will stand between you and the "eye in the sky" so you have more privacy. She will want $5 per dance to shield you from the camera. So... go back there with two, then when you're back there, tell the #2 girl that you want to do VIP dances only with #1, but you will do dances with #2 after you're finished. Difficult to explain in Spanish, but it does get you two girls back there, and you only will have to pay one $20 bartender fee, unless you get questioned by the bartender for doing so. To everybody who gets overcharged, don't feel bad, it happens to me too. Sometimes I can get thru to them by counting out the money ahead of time, i.e. 5- $20s and tell the girl.. "Cinquenta dollares SOLO, y "NADA MAS." Then you might get underperformances for the same amount of money. Difficult to come out ahead.

Earlier this year it was $25 to the house for EACH separate time you took a girl back to the VIP. Then dances were $20 each, and beware of some girls overcounting how many dances there were. Took girl "A" back, it was $25, payable to the bartender. Then if you took girl "B" back you paid the bartender $25 again. There were no bracelets, etc. The only way around it was if you took girl "A" back, sometimes a girl "B" would tag along and act as a camera blocker. Then, after (say) 5 dances ($100) to girl "A", if you consecutively had (say) 5 dances with girl "B" for $100, you still only paid the bartender 1 @ $25. BUT.. when you were negotiating with "A" and "B", you had to specify 5 with "A" and then 5 with "B", yet you didn't want the camera blocker feature, you wanted "A" and then "B" consecutively, each would end up with $100, but nothing for camera blocking. They always went along with the payout, because they understood there was a nice payday for each of them, especially if you'd been there before and recently. BTW.. just curious, what is the normal expected fee for a camera blocker?

I had this issue come up about a year ago with an A/A dancer in the VIP. I pointed out the cameras, and she said, yes, but she knew they never looked at the camera's product. So to prove her point she gave some fairly high mileage dances and then said "was I satisfied that she was not afraid of the mgmt watching the vid she just performed in.?" So, that could have just been one time, or the policy of a different manager, or who knows.

I used to go to this club on a regular basis, and there was some reasonable interplay to be achieved. Not a lot, but some hands action above the waist was tolerated. It was on a girl-to-girl basis, but nothing was said if she went along with the flow. Now we're lucky to even be in the same room as them when doing private, personal shows.

It could be that, "Hey Baby, Wanna Dance" is just a faux paux and she just needed somebody to clue her in. Its like somebody innocently calling me by a plausible nickname, but I just don't respond well to that particular name. Just say, please have a seat, and I'm (whatever).