Interesting subject and I am to between 6-8 with a couple of girls, one I'll call a regular (if you count 3-6 months between encounters) but it doesn't take more than two dances to get to third base and I have had one or two that go straight to FIV (or FOV) on first encounter. The kiss thing is elusive but not sought after either but I've got to the kiss the other lips part with no objections and without pushing for more (I am there to get teased, not fucked). My approach is start on the main floor, have decent conversation, rub her back (neck massage = better mileage). A lot of places keep the AC low, put your arm around her and lend some warmth. VIP isn't required, scout the place out and look for the dark corners away from the stage, if you can sit there. Guaranteed you will send the message "I want a dance".
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