Landing an OTC

Others will probably tell you much the same thing I'm about to say. Don't offer anything. Either let her offer a price and decide from there, or hand her whatever cash you think it was worth when you're done.

Agreed, I would ask her how much for 1-2 hours and then go from there. I'm not sure where you are, but I would highly doubt that $450 for 3-4 is enough to get her. .I would think most dancers want a minimum $500 to start with, for 1 hour.

I would not offer 450 for 3-4 hrs. Insultingly low imo

let her make the first move/offer

Also you really don't want 3+ hours as nice as it seems in theory

She’s been out of state, now she’s back and thinking about going back to work at the club. Translation - her relationship blew up and now she’s back, on her own, looking for work and open to OTC. Since she brought it up, ask her “what did you have in mind cost wise?” Hopefully rather than hemming and hawing she’ll give you a straight up number. If it’s in your price range you negotiate back and forth on the time. However I think 3-4 hours is a really long time for OTC. With my limited OTC experience, I’m usually done in like 45 minutes to 1 hour, and I’m like “you gotta go now”. Unlike with a real relationship, I have no interest in post-sex cuddling, snuggling, or sleeping with paid pussy.

Gods, I'm glad I live in flyover country. 450 for 3 hours might seem low, to some anyway, but you're not going to be dick-in-hole for the entire time. Even if you prefer multiple pops, there's still a lot of room there for chit-chat, food, cuddles, etc. Assuming you're into those things.

I had an OTC relationship with a dancer for 10 years. Actually started on only my second visit to a club. We used to go out for dinner etc, and the theatre and I paid her $100 an hour. If we then wanted private time that was $500. Saw her about twice a year ( I live in Europe, she’s in CA). She stopped dancing and went bizarre over Covid so it fizzled out over the last couple of years. Good fun. Expensive. Certainly an experience.

One thing I stress in OTC action. There is no time limit. We are not inside the club so no bouncer is gonna come knocking on the door. If we are getting along, the date continues. It's not usual, but I have had girls spend the night.

I treat them like we are on a date. We have dinner and drinks OR maybe we go to an event. Live music bar. Make it fun and they will want to do it again and again.

In my market, quality girls are gonna be $4-600, plus the dinner/drinks etc. It's not cheap.

My best advice is think of her working at the club. How much money can she make in an hour if she’s giving lapdances, that should give you a ballpark of what she probably expects per hour with you at a minimum. Also factor in travel time to you and her return home time plus her time getting ready beforehand. Those usually aren’t free.

Remember you may think you’re doing her a favor but really she’s probably doing you a favor by letting you bang her without the restrictions of the club.

Now where you’re at is a huge difference. In some places I can still get OTC for $200 an hour, and some others I couldn’t touch anyone for under $1,500 an hour.

Lastly, she probably doesn’t want to hang out with you for 3-4 hours especially on the first visit. They want to do their job and get out of there, just like most of us do at our place of work. Personally maybe over time you develop a friendly relationship but for now just go strictly “in and out” - pun intended.

If shes working a club you should arrange the OTC on one of the weekdays or Sunday. Fridays and Saturdays she can work the club and probably make a decent amount and then expect you to pay at least that amount for an OTC. So you should schedule it for a weekday so the comparison is how much she can make on a slower night of the week

I never ask for otc but am often offered. Rarely have i partaken but I found it best to let her lead. She offers otc. She mentions price first. Then you have an idea of what her negotiating number is

Interesting to see advice run the gamut. IMHO, 3-4hour OTC sessions rock - Meet for drinks and bite to eat, before retiring to the room.

A couple guidelines - 1) How much is considered a decent day's take-home for a stripper, and 2) What would a couple ITC VIPs run? In a mid-tier area (like SFL, Clearwater, or Atlanta), $500 seems to be the sweet spot for both. Of course, adjust up or down, depending on the location.

From a stripper's POV, she get wined and dined, along with unhurried intimate activities with someone she knows and trusts. She's not on her feet for 8hrs while hustling LDs and (maybe) a VIP or two. And if during the afternoon, she's home in time to handle childcare, buying groceries, etc.

From a PL's POV, it's basically two VIP's worth, but for w-a-y longer time that's totally private, comfortable, unhurried, and luxurious.

A win-win.

PRICE will vary by market as it always has and always will.

Like the others have said, let her make the opening bid, then go from there.

But don't forget: She's moving back. Her money's probably incredibly tight with the move, new apartment, et al, and she's looking for a way to lighten that load. Hence, why she texted you.

@phantomgeek - very wise man

A dancer once texted me, "Hey, let's go to dinner then Home Depot."

"Home Depot?"

"Yeah, after dinner, you can help me furnish my condo."

"Yeah -- no." Never heard from or saw her again after that exchange.

3-4 hours? We'd fuck and then I'd have her paint my kitchen. Seriously, if we're talking about a pseudo-date where you're buying her drinks and dinner before you head to a room, I look at it as a flat-fee rather than an hourly deal. An hour in the room is going to be plenty for me and what I'd base my pricing on. I evaluate what an hour VIP would cost me in the club as a baseline. She already comes out ahead because she gets the part that would otherwise go to the house. I'm flexible because it's so much nicer on a bed in a private room than on a bench in VIP. OTOH, I'm also paying for the room. which is why the whole OTC thing is a bit of a luxury.

OP didn’t ask, but what about OTC location? I have only done OTC at a hotel (the guitar hotel in Hollywood,FL and the Diplomat in Dania Beach, FL are pretty popular with SoFL OTC and escorts). I’d never bring a stripper or escort to my home, regardless of how much I thought I knew her, and I’d never want to go to her place - where I’d have zero control over my personal safety.