VIP or LD?

On a dollar per minute basis, plus the greater privacy, a 15 minute VIP seems like a better deal, even without extras, which would require a tip on top of sticker price, if available at all. You risk enduring 15 minutes with a dud, but not many of those at Desire, IME

Not all require a tip. I bet Reign would go into first gear for the $150 alone. The cr is a better deal and you can ask the girl what she’ll do before you go in.

Do you tip if you get VIP with no extras?

^If the dancer excites me, I enjoy myself and I can picture myself seeing her again I have no objection to an extra, and usually pop another twenty. Half my family are New Yorkers where tipping is like a religion and the other half had a lot of waitresses, so I tend to tip everybody decently and tipping is a skill, when if done right gets you different treatment.
Example: If you plan to throw $10.00 to the valet, don't wait for your car to come back and then give him the money. Give him $5.00 when he takes it and $5.00 when you get your car back 10 minutes before the rest of your party.

A VIP doesn't need to include extras to be fun!
If I do a dance and the girl is sexy, seductive, teasing.... she gets a tip.
I'd rather have that than a mechanical, disinterested extra.

My post seems fucked up. The tip is to a non-extra girl, as extras for $20.00 would be magical.

This may be a controversial take around here but I consider tips to be an integral part of a dancer's economic ecosystem, just like a server at a restaurant or bar. My default is to always tip something unless the dancer tries to cheat me or otherwise messes up. Even if a newbie dancer gives me a totally inept dance (don't know I keep letting that happen) I'll give her something as a confidence booster.
I'll tip reasonably generously on a first LD (don't have many second LDs) if I like the dancer and see her as a good prospect for a future extras VIP. Rarely do non-extras VIPs unless I nutted recently and decide to drink the rest of the night away. Even then, I'll pitch DATY