When I was in high school in fly-over country in the 70s, dating was still transitioning. Plenty of fucking for sure. But also lots of 50s type dating, where couples could go steady for months or years and not do more than what's done in a good 2-way contact lap dancing. Seems the younguns no long see this as an option. They seem to feel like, if you're not at least having oral sex after a few dates, it's not worth bothering with. I think that's a big part of why I see no-extras lap dancing as good enough.
I don't get off on lap dances. Some times it's just fun interaction with a girl. I like making them laugh when they dance. Let them feel me up...my chest stomach arms...
^^^^ If the girl wants to line a guy up for OTC, it is very common. If you want to communicate to her, get under her skin, good move. Often best to start them with Open Tongue Kissing, more showy. And then if you play a girl out some with front room generosity, she will often reverse herself on a no kissing policy. After all, if you had met her in a civvie night club, you'd be kissing her.
In the book “seattle vice” by Rick Anderson, frank colacurcio (our local light edition version of a mafioso) claimed that he invented the lap dance in the early 70’s, and his inspiration came from belly dancers. Before this, frank ran go-go dancers who did more of an on-stage type show. Obviously there is now way to prove this!
ICEY, in our local above ground clubs, kissing has always been extremely rare. Often it is the girl who is driving it. So they tend to come across as bored and lonely.
In our underground, you get girls pressing forehead to forehead, generally trying to escalate.
In our one place which was doing FR FS, those girls are beloved. They tend to follow the guy's lead.
First time I kissed an SF girl, she was surprised and pulled back. But words and tenderness, and she came around.
None of those places have kissing as standard or as any kind of an LE screen.
But if the guy is leading then all the girl has to do is follow.
I had experienced enough kissing in our local clubs. Though sporadic only, and prohibited, the girls are really good at it.
And then in San Francisco, especially in the no alcohol clubs I had experienced enough of it, and I knew there was no legal basis for any prohibition. I mean you could be out on the sidewalk kissing pretty girls all day long. So long as you don't block the sidewalk or driveways, there is nothing the law could do about it.
And then in our underground circuit, what rules there are is completely arbitrary. They really like open tongue kissing, at it usually gets you pussy in the face. The girls want to line up all the OTC they can, so they want to go the extra distance.
So when I first joined TUSCL, I did extensive searching on Stripper Web, using Google Advanced Search carefully.
On Stripper Web they are livid about the kissing. They are livid, because they are seeing it. So there must be something for them to see.
They see kissing in the dance booths. They see kissing at stage side. And they see girls who come around and give thank you DFKing to anyone who gave her $1 in her set. And so probably this often leads to extensive front room makeout sessions.
Now these Stripper Web girls are livid. But they aren't the ones who are doing it.
At Club-Ante, when it was getting close to closure, the back room mileage skyrocketed, and girls were totally disarming guys by giving stage side DFKing when they were not expecting that.
And of course, a girl always likes it when a guy asserts himself to make something happen with her. So kissing her has a big effect, and all the more if it is done in front of other people.
And then these stripper web girls are livid, but there they also talk about escorting. There they all understand that kissing is standard.
And then girls talk about wearing flavored lip gloss for all the kissing they do at the strip club. They like to surprise guys and totally disarm them.
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When I was in high school in fly-over country in the 70s, dating was still transitioning. Plenty of fucking for sure. But also lots of 50s type dating, where couples could go steady for months or years and not do more than what's done in a good 2-way contact lap dancing. Seems the younguns no long see this as an option. They seem to feel like, if you're not at least having oral sex after a few dates, it's not worth bothering with. I think that's a big part of why I see no-extras lap dancing as good enough.
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Originally strip clubs were no touching.
Here the above grounds ones still are.
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I don't get off on lap dances. Some times it's just fun interaction with a girl. I like making them laugh when they dance. Let them feel me up...my chest stomach arms...
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^^^^^ I agree!
Get to know her, then front room makeout session. Backroom FS, then take her home to continue.
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Name one club in the US qllow on ng frmaos
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It happens in most of our local clubs, and even more in our underground circuit.
It may not be the norm though, cause most guys still treat the women as vending machines.
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^^^^ If the girl wants to line a guy up for OTC, it is very common. If you want to communicate to her, get under her skin, good move. Often best to start them with Open Tongue Kissing, more showy. And then if you play a girl out some with front room generosity, she will often reverse herself on a no kissing policy. After all, if you had met her in a civvie night club, you'd be kissing her.
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Hookers kiss like that to screen for le.
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In the book “seattle vice” by Rick Anderson, frank colacurcio (our local light edition version of a mafioso) claimed that he invented the lap dance in the early 70’s, and his inspiration came from belly dancers. Before this, frank ran go-go dancers who did more of an on-stage type show. Obviously there is now way to prove this!
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Nothing softens women up like assertive DFKing.
American Strip Clubs used to be strict no touching. Then Jim and Artie changed MBOT to Lap Sitting.
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Interesting!
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ICEY, in our local above ground clubs, kissing has always been extremely rare. Often it is the girl who is driving it. So they tend to come across as bored and lonely.
In our underground, you get girls pressing forehead to forehead, generally trying to escalate.
In our one place which was doing FR FS, those girls are beloved. They tend to follow the guy's lead.
First time I kissed an SF girl, she was surprised and pulled back. But words and tenderness, and she came around.
None of those places have kissing as standard or as any kind of an LE screen.
But if the guy is leading then all the girl has to do is follow.
SJG
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I had experienced enough kissing in our local clubs. Though sporadic only, and prohibited, the girls are really good at it.
And then in San Francisco, especially in the no alcohol clubs I had experienced enough of it, and I knew there was no legal basis for any prohibition. I mean you could be out on the sidewalk kissing pretty girls all day long. So long as you don't block the sidewalk or driveways, there is nothing the law could do about it.
And then in our underground circuit, what rules there are is completely arbitrary. They really like open tongue kissing, at it usually gets you pussy in the face. The girls want to line up all the OTC they can, so they want to go the extra distance.
So when I first joined TUSCL, I did extensive searching on Stripper Web, using Google Advanced Search carefully.
On Stripper Web they are livid about the kissing. They are livid, because they are seeing it. So there must be something for them to see.
They see kissing in the dance booths. They see kissing at stage side. And they see girls who come around and give thank you DFKing to anyone who gave her $1 in her set. And so probably this often leads to extensive front room makeout sessions.
Now these Stripper Web girls are livid. But they aren't the ones who are doing it.
At Club-Ante, when it was getting close to closure, the back room mileage skyrocketed, and girls were totally disarming guys by giving stage side DFKing when they were not expecting that.
And of course, a girl always likes it when a guy asserts himself to make something happen with her. So kissing her has a big effect, and all the more if it is done in front of other people.
And then these stripper web girls are livid, but there they also talk about escorting. There they all understand that kissing is standard.
And then girls talk about wearing flavored lip gloss for all the kissing they do at the strip club. They like to surprise guys and totally disarm them.
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This is the kind of stuff they were talking about on Stripper Web, flavored lip gloss.
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I love a good FRMOS !
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Flavored Lip Gloss, girls on Stripper Web talk about using this and the effect that it has on guys when they are not expecting it.
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This is what they talk about on Stripper Web!
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Nice fantasy. Bouncers stop it.
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Are you talking about FRMOSs?
Plenty of times I have seen it, and also been a part of it.
At one of our underground places they were doing Front Room FS. Nothing was omitted.
And then when lap dancing used to mean lap sitting instead of booths and back rooms and buying dances, DFKing was common, though not universal.
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^^^ And this is why, though mostly livid girls, are talking about it on stripper web.
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