Craziest non-sexual things you've personally witnessed the club

Watched my ATF beat a female customer with her shoes once.

Like that, I saw at the Sunnyvale Brass Rail this girl who had a plastic baseball bat and was out in the parking lot and kept striking the rear window of a compact pickup truck.

I wasn't going to let this continue as I knew this could lead to real violence. So I told their bounders and they said they would handle it.

Of course the truck was hers, it didn't run and this was how she expressed herself, and of course she was one of their dancers.

Many of these girls are screwy! Best not to deal with that sort.


At one of these underground table dancing shows, or "Bikini Shows" in a San Jose Mexican Bar, an extremely large girl named Summer sprayed perfume into another girl's face. I saw this, but the other girl also told me about it. Summer was acting strange that entire night.

I had found Summer to always be strange. I was not there for what happened next, but I was told that there was a fight between Summer and that other girl, and a second other girl. The one who told me said that her own personal security person broke the fight up. But of course the problem is that such a girl fight destroys the ambiance of the environment and it led to a guy fight.

Other strange stuff has been in Sunnyvale's no touching clubs where girls have started kissing anyone who would give them $1. They weren't holding back about it either. They wanted an OTC, and they wanted an adventure too. I approved, and participated, but I also felt that it could lead to dangerous situations.

SJG

I've seen some great girlfights. At one very ghetto club here, it was more like a bench-clearing brawl, two groups of 3-4 strippers throwing down in a glorious scrum of haymakers and "biiiitch!!!!!"

I once told a girl I didn't want a lap dance, but I'd pay her $50 to punch somebody. She did. I felt a little bad about it after that, but that didn't make it not hilarious.

Very ghetto club?

Oakland? Pink Diamonds? Market St. Cinema?

I don't think there are anymore such clubs in your area. Some place not advertised or listed? They do exist sometimes.

SJG

SJG: The little clubs on broadway can feature insanely ghetto lineups ... all you have to do is actually go to the clubs and you'd see, it's a whole new world :) :) Those clubs aren't IN the ghetto, obviously enough -- but the vibe inside, and the character of the girls, is ghetto ghetto.

Are these non-Deja Vu clubs?

The places I have been on Broadway are Deja Vu. In these clubs, besides being designed to cater to fantasy more than delivery, and to appeal to tourists instead of locals, they also suffer from the problem of under representing ethnic minorities.

Is there something on Broadway not that I don't know about, and that is non-Deja Vu?

SJG

One of the worst things I saw probably was back in south jersey at a little bar in vineland. I was on stage when a fight broke out involving about 10 people, 5 guys got the bouncer down and where kicking him in the face... his face was so swollen it looked like he had 2 baseball's stuck under his skin on his forehead and eye... they also threw hard ash trays and glasses at the bar tenders head...

Same club about a year later I saw a car leave and then heard it crash after my shift... they were doing 90 mpH right into a guard rail (drunk and underaged). they died... rather not go into details on this one . Grusome. Gave those kids lap dances 20 minutes prior to the crash.

And then the bar lost its liquor license...

I could go on about awful things I have seen lol

SJG: the particular story I told was from Roaring 20s -- from what I hear, that kind of scene happens often there. As far as under representing ethnic minorities (as far as the strippers), that's true only if you think caucasians are ethnic minorities LOL Absolutely no white strippers there in the couple of trips I've made.

craziest? 3 hot dancers sitting at my table and I'm not spending any money on them.
I did buy the miss queen bee a beer about 40 minutes earlier.
She didn't care if the club was packed and there weren't very many dancers working either.

Dancer fell off a bar stool in the nasty floor and made no attempt to get up. Manager finally came and got her back up on the stool. Supposedly a meth head and was fired soon afterwards.

Sitting at the bar when a drunk, hooker asked for a drink and the bartender told her she was shut off. She pulled out a pistol; pointed it at him and the customer on the other side of her grabbed her arm and pushed it up; the shot hit the ceiling; plaster rained down on us and the bouncer threw her into the street. Ah the good old days.

Pistol beats pint glasses, that's for sure. There's a dancer I know who recently let me in on the fact that she's always carrying. Fortunately she doesn't drink, at least not at work.

@Subraman,

Why didn't you tell me before? Why didn't you tell JS69, as he has just finished his second trip to SF. On the first trip he didn't even to go any strip clubs. On the second he visited MBOT and was smart not to play. Then he made the brilliant move of deciding that the best thing to do was to bring his own stripper and watch her play.

But if you had told him about Roaring 20's, maybe he would have visited it.

See, I've been to Roaring 20's before, well sort of. I went there intending to go in, but found the doors locked. See, it was owned by Deja Vu. I'd gone to SF, by train, early in the morning and walked from the station at 4th and Townsend. I'd wanted to be there early, to get the best dancer to customer ratio. No such luck though.

So instead I went to Centerfolds and they told me that there is nothing different about Roaring 20's, as the same girls work there and it is exactly the same. They don't open it up till later in the day as there is not enough biz. So it is more just an overflow place for Centerfolds.

I enjoyed myself at Centerfolds, DATYing two of their dancers and ending up DFKing one of them while sitting on a sofa ( against the 'women's rules' ) and getting a phone number for escort sessions from her.

But even though I enjoyed myself, I didn't like the way the place was run. See Deja Vu calls itself management consulting. But what they really are is a think tank which figures out how to take the most money off of the most chumps per minute, without risking legal troubles. They sell more of a fantasy than delivery. As such, the legal risk they face is very small. Sure they can sometimes do FS, but it is only going to be if a rich chump insists on it. As it is coming from him and he is already complicit in sex acts, no risk. They do this to keep the fantasy alive. Most of the time though they are just going to be taking money off the poor chumps who can only afford 'extras', while they fantasize about what the rich chumps get.

So no, I don't think much of Deja Vu. And in fact, when I was at Centerfolds the girls were paying off the bouncers in order to be able to go beyond the limits. This is how I got to DATY them.

But I don't like that kind of environment. Spectator Magazine called the Deja Vu clubs McStripClub. Even the girls looked down upon the places, and on their creepy staff. Once a girl got hip to it all, and learned to like the lifestyle, they left and went to MBOT, Crazy Horse, New Century ( pre Deja Vu ), and Market St. Cinema.

I've interacted with lots of Market St. Cinema girls in the Mexican Bar Bikini Show Circuit, and at the Hanky Panky in Redwood City. They are completely cool and tremendous fun to interact with in any and all manners. Some had their pictures up on the MSC web site, right up until it closed.

Okay, that was then, this is now. No more clubs in Oakland. No more Market St. Cinema, no more Pink Diamonds, and Deja Vu owns New Century. The whole thing sucks.

But Subraman, why didn't you tell me and tell Js69 that Deja Vu has dumped Roaring 20's?

See, here it doesn't even list:
Deja Vu
http://dejavu.com/locations/

It sounds like a genuine shit hole, like the kinds they have in most other states and the kind that I am planning to visit. I look at what they have of dancer pictures. These girls are trashy girls, street hookers.

Roaring 20's, street view
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.797904,-…

web site
http://www.roaring20ssf.com/thegarden.ht…

So lets give it the real litmus test, see what the hipsters on Yelp say about it:
http://www.roaring20ssf.com/thegarden.ht…

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Honestly no attractive girls & they don't even work the pole. There was one cute girl & when she actually did go on the pole poor girl didn't know anything me & my friend literally ran out lol I came with money ready to spend but they put in literally no work. It's not worth it honestly or maybe I came at the wrong time either way I'm not coming back
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Perfect place if you have an incredibly deep wallet and like fat, unattractive, and aggressively rude girls. This is by far the worst club I've ever been to.

Cover is $20 and nowhere near worth it.

The girls croud around and block the doorway so when I walked in I was immediately grabbed by 2 unattractive girls and taken straight to a "VIP" room. They wouldn't take no for an answer. I was out for a good time anyway so I figured, what the hell. $100 and 30 seconds later they pushed me out of the booth and had me find my way back to the stage floor with no money left.

You can't sit and relax or talk with friends for more than a minute without some nasty girl being all over you trying to get you to pay for a dance.

Multiple girls were drunk and reeked of alcohol.

A number of the girls looked pregnant and one looking like she just had a "C" section with the scars left to prove it.

When taking with my friend I was interrupted by a girl that had already tried guilt tripping my friend. She grabbed my hand without a word and tried to get me to go to another booth with her. I pulled back and said I wasn't interested and she yelled at me and continued to drag me upstairs. We sat down and I explained that the other girls had hustled me out of all my money and that I had none let. She complained that it wasn't given to her and told me to use my credit card to get more money. I showed her I had no credit card and when looking at my wallet reaches in and takes the last 4 dollar bills I had and said "this will be my tip". I immediately said "for what!". She said for being up here with you. And then instantly shoved me out and forced me back downstairs.

Absolute worst experience and will never go back and recommend you take this review to heart and don't waste your time and money on this dump.

PS. 0 stars should be an option for rat holes like this.
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A place to see obese people and get mugged.

Roaring 20's is one of the rather low class places in the north-beach strip club area, but calling it a "blue collar" place would be too much of an euphemism. The word "ghetto" fits it better.

I've been there on a Saturday night and it was very packed, arriving at about midnight, every seat was taken.

They accept the yelp check-in offer, but also offered a wristband for 40$ to have access to their club, the garden of eden and two others (I think it was little darlings and hungry i), which seem to be strip clubs of a very similar style.

They have one stage in the middle and the seats are arranged around it, where you can either sit directly at the stage or on bar stools at the wall behind them. But like in other places they don't like to see people standing around and will try to push to go in private rooms.

The majority of the girls is overweight, not very attractive and look like they have been rejected by the better strip clubs. There was only one really attractive girl, that was hanging out with the same guy the entire time I was there.
It also seems to attract a certain kind of crowd that is rather poor, uneducated and overweight.

Some of the girls will feel obligated to walk up to you and offer you a "tour". Then they will guide you in one of the rooms and either want to see all the money you have on you or will try to charge you a ridiculously high price for a service and a time that they don't really want to define. They tend to get really pushy and aggressive.
One girl twisted my nipple really hard, when she realized I wasn't interested. When I said that it hurt and that I don't want her to do that she punched me in the stomach with the box that they have to carry around and started to insult me. I eventually left. I don't know what her plan was, because beating me didn't make me more likely do give her any money, but she was clearly not in control of herself and possibly mentally ill.

The place has one tiny, dirty unisex toilet. On busy Friday/Saturday nights you have to expect to wait 5-10 min in line. Tiny as it is, it still seems to be big enough to be a market place for drugs, since some guy offered me, what he called "coke".

The club left me with a rather bad feeling and I would recommend to stay away from it.
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Worst strip club I've ever been to. I have had two horrible experiences here both times the girls were very pushy and also gave a horrible performance. They want your money and dont care if your satisfied at all. The management is just as bas as the dancers. I literally paid for a dance didnt even get one and then the manager said I was in the room for a half hour and was paying for the girls time. Felt like I was strong armed. This place is a robbery
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Worst strip club ever the girls there will need at least a 100$ for a 10 min dance. girls working there are basically prostitutes . I paid a girl 40$ you know what I got? A motor boat from a prostitute and I was told if I would like a dance I would need to cash out more money? why when the 40$ I gave u You gave me nothing in return y would I want to give you more money I already have u 40 and you are fully clothed maybe if she got naked for those 40$ I would have given her more money but no way this girl also asked if I needed any drugs she said she has a hook up... lol strip club that sells drugs and the strippers don't get naked for 40$ ? why would I pay you more ? for Wat ? another motor boat ? these girls are crazy go to another strip club where girls will be fully naked for 20 bucks popping that puss ... oh yea I'm a big spender so as soon as this girl did nothing for me for 40$ I went to the next strip club and had a stripper naked for 10$ but guess Wat this girl gave me a good time I ended upcashing her out about 300$ for a long nice dance she got naked for 10$ and earned the rest.... save your money and avoid this strip club trust me there are plenty of clubs on that strip that the girls will get naked for under 40$ and work to earn the rest un like this club where they want money for God knows what? so if I gave her a100$ Wat would she do? give me 2 moterboats ? this place is a joke never ever come here at all
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BAD Stripclub! Very low class, not very attractive girls. This older stripper would not leave me alone. Watch out for her. She carries a lunchbox and acts like she's the other girls pimp and then charges you double. Eww get away.
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This place should be shut down. Went in there in '10, and the two girls were, if 18, coked up, dumb as shit exploited little girls, no one was dancing and maybe 5 chics total all sitting next to each other on the wall, most heinous, but the two very young looking ones, came running up to me and my friend ecstatically right as we walked in the front door, and immediately grabbed by the hand and said "Want to go upstairs to a private room", so I played along, just to see how this worked. Only people in there, except for one really shady black dude sitting by himself at the opposite end of the dance floor, and staring straight ahead. Obviously a pimp or extra muscle of some kind. SF can be a sick fucking place at times. I get the impression that even at normal bars in nob Hill or wherever the chics are just hustling you, for coke, prostitution, who knows .. This place reminded me of the movie with Kristen Stewart, Welcome to the Rileys. On Netflix, good, but sad, and literally likely more of an accurate portrayal, if not lightened up, by not showing the drug addiction and mistreatment by the "pimps", club owners, and managers, etc. than most partying strip club going young people are aware of ...
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This is the worst experience I have ever had in my life. The strippers are aggressive. If you want to waste your money on nothing, this is THE place. Unfortunately, I was fooled by an Asian girl. She pushed me and I ended up paying her TOO much. We literally did nothing expect talking and negotiating about the price. She wasted my time and money. However, I just realized that this was a wake up call. Never pay those girls; they are not honest with their customers.
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I went to this place few times in last 1 month. The girls are mixed bag - some look hot and some not so. COver charges during weekday are generally $10, weekend is $10-$20 depending upon day and time etc.

I tried LD from different girls on my visits. In general the lap dances were fun with most girls i tried - except CANDI which turned out to be my most terrible experience to date in this hobby over last couple of years !

CANDI experience:
I would strongly suggest to avoid CANDI (chinese girl). I took LD with her after she talked quite sweetly and promised to provide me really good time ! She looks reasonable hot and did good pole dance.

But once we ended up in private booth for LD she turned out to be quite greedy and demanded more money (like $100 or more) than LD is supposed to be there ($40, $60 ). In return she again promised to provide real good time. i agreed to pay more, reluctantly ! But fuck - she turned out quite a bitch. She won't allow even slight touch or body to body contact. On top of that she smelled so bad from down there as if she is having some kind of STD or herpes etc !! There were some ugly red marks as well.
I got so turned OFF and felt cheated by all this - stinky smell, horrible attitude, fake-promises, totally unprofessional !

So guys save your time, money, health (might get that shit disease) and NEVER EVER try this girl, Don't be fooled by his candy-like pre talks ! You have been warned ;
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Hey Everybody, You Don't Have to Write Off San Francisco!! You don't have to go to other states. Now we have our very own shit hole! All you have to do is pay a small cover charge and street hooker, hustlers, and other cheap sluts will be climbing on you and trying to drag you into the VIP Room, so they can then tell you that you have to pay more money.

So we don't have to go too New Orleans or Harvey Illinois or Detroit anymore.

Now I've reached the level of 1800 posts. Read some of them and you'll see. You don't let these girls drag you into the VIP rooms, or they'll just suck your wallet dry. No, you give them money, but you play with them in the FRONT ROOM. If they are anything like the girls who work in other shit holes, you'll have a wonderful time. You just have to be exactly like them. Just hand them money and help yourself. And so long as you never ever treat them like hookers, they'll love you for it and probably want you to take them home with you. But if you play along with them and makeout with them, eventually they will want you to give them a fucking. At that time only, take her into the VIP Room and proceed. Or just take her someplace else.

And Subraman, please don't keep stuff like this to yourself anymore. Let the rest of us know. My future plans will have to be completely revised. As far as SC's, I'd completely written off San Francisco.

SJG

Chaka Khan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmyR84zq…

"And Subraman, please don't keep stuff like this to yourself anymore. Let the rest of us know. My future plans will have to be completely revised. As far as SC's, I'd completely written off San Francisco."

LOL I look forward to your TR. I have a feeling it will be quite special

"Why didn't you tell me before? Why didn't you tell JS69, as he has just finished his second trip to SF. On the first trip he didn't even to go any strip clubs."

Well, I like JS69, so not telling him about a club full of some of the least attractive, unpleasant ghetto girls I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing was a favor :)

Least attractive, unpleasant, ghetto?

But with these girls you can do it anyway you want. You can come on to them and makeout with them and get them so heated up that they leave a wet spot on your lap. And then you can fuck them in the back room, or probably any where.

You just have to be as much of a hustler as they are, then you'll have no problem getting along with them.

SJG

Despite post after post debating San Francisco and JS69's two trips, Subraman was intending to keep his knowledge of these changes to himself.

I look at Deja Vu's corporate page, and for San Francisco all they list is Centerfolds. Let them have it.

They list other places in California and in Nevada they still list the Pahrump Chicken Ranch.

But what they don't list in San Francisco are Roaring 20's, Garden of Eden, Gold Club, and New Century.

Not sure if they ever had Hungry I. They might still have Larry Flynt's Hustler Club.

I find these developments to be earth shaking.

Now, Tuscl still lists Roaring 20's and Garden of Eden as Deja Vu. But otherwise I can find no other mention of them being poisoned by Deja Vu.

By looking at Google Maps pictures I can see at Garden of Eden the old style structures, this kind of dance $20, that kind of dance $40, etc. This interferes with free form interactions.

I don't see any of this for Roaring 20's. For both clubs, the Yelp Hipsters don't like them, and this is always an extremely good sign.

Both clubs have the high bar stool height chairs. No good for lap sitting. But a girl could come up to you and get very friendly, kind of like in the old Mexican Bar Table Dancing Circuit. She'll ask you for a dance, but you don't accept. You give her some money and play with her some. A lot of that is talking. That is where you establish the sort of relationship you will be having with her.

I see at Garden of Eden a roped off couch area. Again, no good! Don't see anything like this at Roaring 20's. Both clubs have a few places which could work for lap sitting.

The Gold Club, though just topless, has always had food and a good rep. Lots of South Bay dancers from there. The South of Market address is a neat area.

Now for New Century, former independent, former Mafia, and now former Deja Vu?

From their web page I can see lots of cubby hole areas which could be used for getting friendly without being subjected to a structure or paying a toll. I have read that they do do lap sitting there, and that they do do the girl on girl action on stage which helps set the intimacy style and which is part of the MBOT heritage.

We need Subraman to stop holding back and start spilling the beans about what is going down!

SJG

How a Sex Strike Propelled Men to Refuse War
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Family blacksheeping, child abuse, disinheritance laws, ground zero Louisiana
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The System, how to pay hookers for sex
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Well there was the time this Asian stripper, half way through a lap dance, asked me "Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your savior?". That ended the dance and after I talked to the manager, I never saw her again.

Well Done!

SJG

I saw a bachelor party dude on stage and they handcuffed him to a ball and chain. When the girls came up on stage to dance for him, one of the strippers accused him of biting her nipples so she kicked him in the nuts. Hard. So the guy is in tremendous pain but the bouncer with the key to the handcuffs can't get them unlocked. Several minutes of real tension. When the guy is finally free, he dropped to the ground in obvious agony.

^^^What a mood killer lol.

Back when Heartbreakers were still around I used to see this customer lurk around in dirty overalls and a duck hat. Probably in his 80s. Not sure what angle he was going for.

Quemafia - Before that he hung out at Platinum Plus. He was affectionately known as Mr. D. he always ate the free buffet, always had 2 or 3 dancers sitting with him buying them drinks, and usually took 1 or 2 of them to the couch room for dessert.

The story goes that one day Mrs. D came into the club, grabbed him by the ear and dragged him outside. She was heard to say "So this is how you have been spending your afternoons".

I was told that the guy did own a small repair business and had some money.

Laugh out a fart. That's the guy! When I read your pm I was afraid you were going to tell me you were Mr. D and to lay off the overalls.