Breathless Go Go bar shooting in Nj
In Rahway, NJ, there was shooting at closing time right outside the club. I can only say your establishment is that bad you have people just deciding to shoot and kill a guy just trying to have a night of seeing attractive women. I'll never go there. Would anyone go to a strip club after you've heard of someone get shot and killed for whatever reason?
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"Would anyone go to a strip club after you've heard of someone get shot and killed for whatever reason?"
A one time ONLY incident is not necessarily a reason to totally avoid a particular club. Now, if there are repeat incidents like a shooting, knifing, &/or killing, THEN avoiding the club where it occurred may well be a smart move. That's the beginning of a possible pattern of dangerous to your heath violence with deadly weapons in the hands of dangerous persons.
Gun advocates will here state this is the REASON to be carrying around BIGGER & BETTER guns on their bodies. IMHO this just will increase the violence of any particular incident. And possibly innocent & unarmed persons may be caught in the crossfire of a "OK Corral" type battle and be wounded or killed.
The main poster of these "Crime Reports" is Shadowcat. Too bad he doesn't in his determination to post all these reports, indicate if the particular club or business site is a place where repeated violence with deadly weapons is occurring. That would be useful information.
My college was ranked the most violent in the nation when I attended but that was only due to some wild partying after a national victory the previous year. I had no intention of climbing power poles or taking over a downtown street after every single game win.
If I don't feel safe somewhere I'll stay away. Criminals move around though so they can go anywhere just like me. No place is 100% safe.
George and people like him will be the people saving lives when some crazy guy or criminal decides to shoot a place up but one guy is returning fire and the criminal has to take cover and wait to kill everyone because his own life is in danger.
I could understand attacking mentally insane gun rights but not gun rights of law abiding people who are not mentally insane or with serious problems.
A local sheriff near where I lived suggested all law abiding people should get a gun and shoot and kill the criminals if attacked. The police just can not be everywhere or get there in time.
I have a couple of other weapons (since KY's law concealed "weapons", not just firearms) that I do carry into the clubs, though. Except for the one where they sweep me with a metal detector. I don't go there anymore since the first time.
In fact, court cases have over and over held that individual police officers, and LE organizations in general, are *not* obligated to help any given person, even when that person's life and/or property are in danger.
I see no massive federal effort to disarm illegal street gangs of their weapons nor to warn people of the mentally insane or restrict their gun rights. Common sense is needed. It seems to be lacking. Instead we have people who think they know all about criminals and the way to solve the problem is a cookie cutter approach where they pass a law removing all guns of those who already obey the law.
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The next step is to train more people in the safe and effective use of firearms. I think women especially should be encouraged to learn to shoot and to carry a pistol. If women are armed, rapists and other criminals will cease to target them.
And that overwhelming evidence does exist. In every state where "concealed carry" has been approved, violence and crime of all types have gone down significantly in the first year after implementation, and remained much lower than any state where concealed carry is not permitted. Firearms related injury and deaths went way down in every state, as well as robberies, rapes and muggings, but notably every category of crimes against persons or property went down in every state approving concealed carry.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, EVERY city in the top ten with the most firearms murders, BAN guns. Chicago has one of the most severe firearms bans of any city in the world and averages over 500 firearms murders a year. Clear and irrefutable evidence that will not change a gun-ban nut's opinion.
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How do you propose to confiscate ALL guns? I don't see this as practical. There are way to many already out there.
I've never said anything about disarming the military or the police.
As follows: "A one time ONLY incident is not necessarily a reason to totally avoid a particular club. Now, if there are repeat incidents like a shooting, knifing, &/or killing, THEN avoiding the club where it occurred may well be a smart move. That's the beginning of a possible pattern of dangerous to your heath violence with deadly weapons in the hands of dangerous persons."
The shooting occurred outside Breathless in the parking lot at 3 a.m.
A witness told News 12 that a man trying to break up a fight in the parking lot was shot and killed.
The identity of the victim has not yet been released.
Police say an investigation into the shooting is ongoing.