This place is one you have...

This place is one you have to visit more than once to get an accurate gague of what it is like. My first visit was incredibly disappointing; I would have rated it a 2. But later visits were completely different. So you have to not make a snap judgment.

For me the location is great because it is right off 280, so it is easy to hit the place going home, just jumping off the highway and jumping right back on again. There is easy on street parking, and the area seems very safe to me. I have no sense that my car is going to be broken into.

The building is nondescript. Once inside, I found the initial impression negative. It looks like a dump, very dark and dingy. The irregularly shaped bar crowds almost the whole room, so there is very little you can do other than walk around and find a seat. The patrons are mixed; some working class, some professional; different races and ethnicities. Everyone seems pretty well behaved. The music is usually pretty loud and obnoxious.