Since the last time I was...

Since the last time I was at 4Play, they added the VIP seating around the stage. I guess that it is ok for the $20 and helps to induce the higher rollers up to the front for the view. I do not go in the evenings, only Friday afternoons, and still like the atmosphere, the ladies, the song lenght (longest in LA)and the freedom from roving supervisors. The back room is still good if you pick the right girl and there is ample privacy in the afternoon. The upstairs VIP is generally empty and you have a choice of bed or couch. Since there is hardly anyone up there at that time, the couch is more than sufficient.