This place utterly confuses me. ...

This place utterly confuses me. I have been here at least 10 times over the past 5 years and the past two times have been increasingly disappointing. I come to Vegas for business so I always come here at least once on my trip. Anyways, I've taken the advice that many put up on here about going during the day. It's true that there is no cover, true drinks are cheaper, true the girls aren't as attractive. However, what I've noticed is the increasing effort for the upsell during every dance. The girls are willing to sit and chat, but as soon as u give the greenlight for the lapdance, then the upsell for VIP starts. IMO, this can kill a dance. I have given the excuse of limited funding but then I get to hear about how they take credit cards and have an ATM. last time I was there I went to VIP for the 3 for 100 deal because the girl touched me in all the right places. We get to VIP and she immediately makes out with me and asks if I am sure I don't want a half hour. So yes I buckle and pay up. Then 10 minutes in she says we could do so much more in an hour and then I have to hear about the credit card machine again. Keep in mind that there was no more making out and she told me when I gave her the money that I just paid for a week of day care. I think she was purposely trying to bring me back down from all the riling up she had done. I knew this so I looked at her and said, "so you're a milf, huh? that's such a turn on!" I knew this was not going to go anywhere so I just had fun with it. However, I'd love to hear if I'm alone on this or if other OG lovers are seeing this trend. I realize the girls are there to get as much money as possible so I'm not angry. I just look at it as I lost that round of the game. I will sat that the VIP corner booths are very private and very dark even though its in an open side room. opportunities could be had if you were into that. Im not interested in any fs, but I did not the dance to almost be more g rated than the floor dances. I will be back in Vegas at the end of January so it would be cool to hear any tips. The only thing I can think of was to be very clear before going to VIP, however, I felt the signs were there for a good time. feel free to pm me with any comments.