Comments by kman

I did not have a problem conversing in English with any of the working girls (the ones I spoke to). The woman at the front desk was so so, the few lines she spoke sounded rehearsed. Regarding the prices I think you could get some of them with bbbj for $100 if you first make the deal and stood your ground. When its slow I dont see a reason why they wont agree.

I did mention in previous paragraph 400K rupiah is around 25$. so 200K is around 13$. Almost all or if not all the girls are Indonesian. Typical SE asian looks, some girls are hard to tell, they could pass for korean or filipino or Thai. Indo girls are a bit taller than Filipinos. All in good shape, mostly spinner type, few chubby, but no overweight ones.. Generally most are light skinned, a few fair and few medium. Dont recall seeing any dark skinned working girls. There are other clubs where you can find European girls, but they cost more, like around 2 Mil Rupiah ($130) Regarding the law, its just recent. I was there last month. But its not going to be easy to enforce. Also they clarified the law does not apply to foreigners.

Is it 30$ or 20$ per dance? I thought Thursdays were $10 and other days $30 per lap dance.

Only Thursdays are $10 dances. Not Sundays.

LD cost on Tuesdays - $10 topless, $20 full nude. Songs are shy of 3 mins.

Well I went to Carl's today around 7pm, Monday night. No girls, nada. I asked the bartender if girls will show up later and she said she had no idea. I asked her if they still allowed dancing, I did not get a straight answer. Would have to go back during some busier time to check it out.

I am going to miss Chavelas. period.

you can take the mask off once you are seated, while you have your drink.

Everyone wears a mask in the dance area, both dancers and patrons. You need a mask to enter the club as well.

on opening night it was decent. Around 6 to 8. I drove by today , parking lot looked emptier.

I did not know there was a 30 minute option. Thanks for the info. I only approached the attractive young ones who no matter time of the day asked cien. But I did not try before 5 or 6 pm. The girls in Chavelas were asking me for 80, again I only approached the good looking ones.

Does anyone know if its true they have 2 for 1 dances before 10 pm? A dancer told me so on a Monday.

I agree Cristobal. I too had some good ones at HK and Adelitas, but my experience overall was better at Chicago, maybe due to the fact there are less girls and the club is trying hard to make a comeback. That being said there are girls at Chicago that only do VIP dances, they do not go upstairs nor do lap dances for drinks, beware. Ask them first. Mongo, the rooms at Chicago are the same from eons ago. No improvement. I did not even use the shower , i went back to Cascadas where I was staying to shower. I was staying at one of the upgraded regular rooms at Cascadas. They are really good, finally a decent place to stay at Zona Norte. While I was there I checked out the Jaccuzi room, really nice size room and nice huge Jaccuzi. Chicago also had the hot tub show, where guys were getting in naked with the girl,fingering and inserting a dildo in the girl. First time I saw a scene like that. It was one step further than HK soapy shows.

Playpen is reopened as of March 2018. Still a dead place like it has been past few years.

Girls at Carls bar will not do 10, unless you have grandfathered in with a girl. 2 for 30 generally works. But some started to refuse that too especially on weekend nights. Other two places J's and Bobbys are very much negotiable. Louie D lounge is the only officially 10 dollar place, no need to haggle. Looks like playpen reopend.