Cascadas vs. Rizo Cost analysis

I appreciate the discussion but highest savings will just simply correlate to the highest cost since the savings is a percent discount applied to that price. You will see the biggest savings with VIP if you rent or the 9th floor for 4 days right?

What I personally find comical is that fully understanding the sunken cost fallacy, I go back to TJ and spend hundreds and hundreds simply to get my $70 value that I spent on a previous trip. I'm really that stupid.... Hehehe. The $70 should have no relevance to the decision to go back yet considering all the costs and expenses yet I find myself going back once or twice within the 3 months VIP use dates.

Oh forgot to mention them when the VIP expires, I could go 4 to 6 months before a visit. Yeah, I know it doesn't make sense yet I still do it...lol

I forget where the heck I saw it but, someone did a spreadsheet that you could use to calculate all of the costs for a trip. It included VIP card, Room, Fichas, Tips, drinks, etc. I'm not convinced that it was super useful but it certainly was entertaining.

@justinyoo That is the single reason they offer the discount card - the psychological effect it has to bring people back far outweighs the admin costs and a side benefit for them is the added traffic on what would be slow days anyways. I’d like love to see their analysis calculations on cost/benefits.

Btw OP your SS misses too many factors to be of any use. The discount card can be used many time in three mths so cost of card is variable. There is no “savings” w/o spending so the fallacy of buying something you don’t need cause it’s on “Sale”. The fact that staying longer in TJ requires spending more on food, drink, sex etc. so that can negatively affect so called savings. Many other factors in a cost of trip analysis are also not accounted for.

I appreciate all the discussion! When it comes down to it, I like TJ a lot and, I'm coming VIP or not with the same hard budget I usually bring. My budget is going to be the same every time. I'm absolutely a degenerate and, I fully intend on blowing absolutely all of my budget on alcohol and pussy. I really just was wanting to get a visual of how much the room actually costs if I were to plan a 4 or 5 day weekday trip. Normally, I just do a little weekend trip TJ between Asia trips.

Thinking about going to TJ for a longer trip instead of Asia this time. I usually get the Master Suite at Rizo but, I was just wondering what the true cost of some of the other rooms were, specifically on a weekday. I thought about maybe about trying a nicer room or just going with single room and spending more money in the club.

I went to Pattaya a couple of weeks ago and, I do enjoy a good go-go bar. I noticed this time some of my go-to places had almost tripled their bar fines. Of course, you can go to the Gentlemen's clubs or beer bars and spend less but, the go-gos are where the 9s and 10s are. At this point, I believe, going into a Walking Street go-go having the minmum amount of drinks to barifne a 9/10 and a taking her for a short time at my hotel is probably more expensive than doing the same thing (under an hour) in TJ with a super baddie.

I used to go to TJ often. Last trip was in 2022, I believe. I just started to realize how much of a dump Cascadas is. Uncomfortable beds, very few TV stations I can watch, Wifi really doesn;'t work, bad cell signal, loud music, you have to wait forever for the elevator. Has it improved any ???

@Warrior15:

Cascadas has made some significant improvements since your last trip. The rooms have been remodeled, and there are new elevators in both the north and south lobbies. Wifi seems to be better as well. The music is still loud, though, so I try to get a room on the higher floors - there it's not as bad.

^ Thanks @OPIllini96

I'm Eastern Time Zone. So when I go, I'm there for several days. I have thought about getting a room at a nicer hotel, then get a single room for the Arribas . I'm sure I will venture there sometime again in the near future. Hong Kong is just too damn much fun to stay away from.

I am curious about Pattaya. I have never been there, as the cost of the flight would need to factored into the equation. Those of you who have gone to both Pattaya and TJ, please compare the two experiences?

@Ninjalust1 my experience has been that food in TJ is about half the cost of my home city and in Thailand it’s about 1/3 the cost of home. Both places though you can feed yourself at a very low cost ($5 to $10) if you want to seek out bargain places.

@Ninjalust I've thought about this alot and I'm very conflicted. I've been to HK 5 times and have spent about 4 weeks in Pattaya collectively. They're both very different. Hong Kong is a single club and is the best single club I've ever been It definitely beats the shit out of any single club in Thailand. Zona Norte though, is very small in comparison to Pattaya as the entire city center of Pattaya is effectively a brothel. For me, I look for 8s and 9s and I prefer a good GFE/Overnight experience with someone I vibe. This leads to me being extremely picky and indecisive.

For HK as long as you keep your sessions under an hour and you turn down privados and keep the girls from ordering the fuckin wine fichas, you don't have to worry about bar fees and can keep most of the bullshit away. It gets very expensive when you go over an hour or start throwing money around in the club. I find it easier to run though like 3 or 4 girls in a night in HK than it is in Pattaya just because the hotel is literally attached to the club.

In Pattaya there's an insane amount of working girls but, you really have to sift through a lot of mids to find a stunner. I spend a lot of tme on a motorbike and walking around to the different clubs looking for a baddie and, I eventually find one but, I feel like I do more leg work in Pattaya.

Pattaya wins when it comes to GFE and overnight imo. BBBJ is the standard no covered blowjobs. There's no by the hour stuff so it's either "short time" 1 or 2 shots or "long time" overnight 3+ shots. In Pattaya there's always a barfine which in USD can be as low as 500baht (15usd) to as high as 7000baht (200usd) If you go long time with a 10/10 from a top go-go. Example: XS on walking street quoted me 3000 baht barfine for short time and 7000 for all night last time I was there. Thats just the bar fee and does not include the girls price or the minimum drink spend. This is when I thought HK might better for long trips these days if I'm trying to bang true hotties. To be fair though, every now and then you can find a baddie in a cheaper club. I found one in a gents club on the outskirts of town who was not a super model but was very naturally beautiful in my opinion and we had a good vibe. We banged in the upstairs room for an hour and had drinks for another hour. Total damage was like 60usd including everything w/ drinks. That's a diamond in the rough though but, it does happen.

Is it worth paying the airfare and sitting in a plane for 18 hours? If you're going for 2 weeks or more, then yeah probably. Hotels and food in Pattaya can be cheap af. Any less than that I'd go to TJ or I might try Germany or Austria for like a week. Want to check out Brazil as well soon.