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2 weeks ago

All new cars are scanning us already...

Don't really like talking about this on our happy strip club website, but...

I previously brought this up in relation to our IDs being scanned at clubs. This is not some wild eyed lunatic website, it is Consumer Reports:

consumerreports.org

And both Democrats and Republicans are fine with it. Which shows how stupid it is to argue politics. All either party cares about is themselves!

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sfrsox

I'm going to be looking at used cars if they have warranties

Depreciation sucks too

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Someguyontheinternet

Both parties are wings of the same bird. Americans just trade Red Tyranny for Blue Tyranny every election cycle.

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shadowcat

Here is what is next: "By 2027, U.S. federal mandates will require new passenger vehicles to feature advanced, in-cabin cameras and sensors designed to combat impaired and distracted driving. These systems will use infrared technology to track eye movement, pupil dilation, and head position to monitor driver alertness, potentially disabling vehicles if impairment is detected.

Key Aspects of 2027 Driver Monitoring Mandates Mandatory Implementation: Stemming from the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, these systems will be standard in all new vehicles, likely taking effect by late 2026 or 2027. Technology Used: Infrared cameras and AI-driven sensors will track driver behavior, specifically looking for signs of fatigue, drunkenness, and distraction (e.g., looking away from the road, phone usage). Active Intervention: Unlike current passive alerts, these systems may prevent the car from starting or limit operation if the driver is determined to be impaired. Privacy Concerns: The mandate has raised significant privacy questions regarding the collection of biometric data and the potential for "surveillance". Cost Impact: The technology is expected to add roughly

to the cost of new vehicles. Scope: While initially focused on impaired driving, this infrastructure may be used to monitor broader, real-time driving behavior. Yahoo Autos Yahoo Autos +6 These regulations are part of a broader shift toward increased vehicle-based surveillance for safety, similar to initiatives in Europe and in addition to increasing use of exterior, law-enforcement-linked speed cameras in work zones. "

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funonthaside

Seems like something some post-it notes may be able to override.

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sfrsox

I'm fine with the impaired info just not the GPS info.

And if they can record turning/accelerating/braking I hope if you're a good/defensive driver the insurance companies reduces prices but of course it'll only work in ne direction.

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Rightfield

Just like North Korea, where "if you're not guilty, you've got nothing to worry about". But those people never look very fucking happy.

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Rightfield

And, no, I don't want to drive with two hands on the wheel all the fucking time. And sometimes I take a sip of water when I'm driving if the road is clear. But that's not really safe, is it?

Starting next year, the car won't move if you try to put a post-it note over the camera(s).

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funonthaside

So what happens if you're using your phone while driving while simultaneously drinking water? Will the vehicle suddenly stop, cause a a multi-car pile-up?

Seems like the typical "let's do something that people will think is effective, even though it's nothing more than a feel-good action".

Certainly, if lives are saved, there is some good to this, I suppose.

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623

We just keep racing toward “1984”

To bad they can’t figure out self driving just as quickly as they can figure out surveillance and monitoring of us.

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MrBater2010

Politicians won't think twice about it until they are:

  1. Either busted driving impaired by the car. (How many have gotten a DUI in the past 4 years?)
  2. They want their "security", and therefore need tracking turned off. (At least while going to a strip club, a mistress's place, etc.
  3. Realize that even though they aren't driving the Lyft, Uber, or Hired Car, it is being tracked.
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Reachme

Couple of pulled fuses or some clipped wires should do the trick. As long as the car starts and can shift to gear.

Btw, this is the reason I haven’t gotten a Tesla in all these years. No one needs to know where I go.

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nicespice

Holy cow, that’s really insightful. I don’t really use consumer reports because I have a pretty minimalist lifestyle, but maybe I should give them something. I do like their pushing for consumer protection in the past five or so years.

I know my vehicle has “scoring” that is done anytime a trip is made. I personally thought it was pretty cool, and I try to keep the score low and gas friendly. I didn’t realize it was likely getting shared and tracked elsewhere. I know I have resisted getting the app for my vehicle insurance despite that it gives me higher rates.

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shailynn

I think a lot of this is a double edged sword.

Nobody wants surveillance on them, but if the surveillance prevents a drunk driver “potentially” getting behind the wheel and causing injury that opens the door for a debate.

Personal privacy versus injury/loss of life from impaired drivers.

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Rightfield

I personally don't feel life is worth living without a certain degree of liberty.

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623

@rightfield you have already given up your “liberty” as soon as you got a cell phone, used the internet, wore a smart watch, bought a Alexa and done any of 100 other things. With no guardrails the corporate world has been tracking your every move for the last 15 years and they share, sell and analyze you to the nth degree. They then use that info to train you in how you should think. We have been sheeple for over a decade and don’t even know it.

By the way re OP comment: virtually every car built in the last two decades has been tracking you with its black box and most of them automatically share that data with insurance companies, often without your implicit consent.

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Rightfield

@623: You don't know what tech I have embraced over the last decade. It ain't much. Smart Watch? Alexa? No fuckin' way.

And the link I provided at the top is all about what data autos are sharing. So that was kind of the point of my posting.

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623

@rightfield By virtue of the fact that you are on this website, I know you use the Internet. I’m willing to bet that you also made purchases on the Internet, used a credit card, looked up directions on a map, and 100 other things that are used to track citizens. Just keep telling yourself that you’re not being analyzed and traced, like all other Americans. I specifically work in the tech industry that is currently amassing data for sale. We advertise in our marketing materials we have over 3000 data points in every household in America. That data can be sliced diced in mined in 1 million different ways. And business is booming.

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PhantomGeek

It's why we get ads for certain ranges of products when we're online. Nuts, even the pornsites track us to some extent. You put in a search for "big boobs," and the next time you're on that site, the whole first page will be filled with big boobs.

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Iknowbetter

I’m not so concerned about automakers and insurance companies tracking my whereabouts and driving habits. I just don’t want my wife to always know where I’m going or where I’ve been!

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