How much back pay for 6 months work?

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• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  These kinds of law suits started against MBOT San Francisco in the early 80's. It is not just back pay it is social security contributions. The upshot is that dancers have to be employees, and strip clubs cannot operate like that. Usually it is former dancers, retired dancers, pursuing the law suits. Need to go to the Private Party / Membership CLub model. SJG
• Icee Loco (asshole)

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  2 years ago

  It's easy to figure out. Take what they paid taxes on and dividends by pay periods. If they didn't pay taxes.... If she was treated as an employee she should be paid as one. I support these lawsuits
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  The lawsuits may be ethical. But they will still destroy strip clubs. Need to go to the Private Party / Membership Club model to get out from under this. SJG
• whodey

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  2 years ago

  I always thought "back pay" for a stripper was limited to the time she spent on her back in the vip? As far as the 20% surcharge for using a card, I can't see that holding up in court as essentially taking 20% of her tip as she claims. Assuming the club discloses the fee to customers it is just another expense to the customer. The only way it would be taking 20% of her tip is if the club didn't add 20% to the total and just took it from the dancer's tip amount.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  ^ The issue varies from state to state, but in CA labor law is quite progressive and other states have been following CA. If the employer cannot prove that the worker was indeed a contractor, then they will be retroactively classified as employees. But we get out of this with the Membership Club / Private Party Model, then the women are not employees or contractors, they are just Members or Party Guests, same as the men. But we have to have our legal ducks in order to make this hold. SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  They have to get minimum wage plus employer's contribution to Social Security. But this is not what is going to break the industry. Strippers already take in a lot of money. It could be reorganized some so that it works out to be within the new law. But with these Suits and then AB5, you have to make them employees. Not because of money, but because of other legal entanglements with that, strip clubs will not be able to function. So we have to get out from under this and go to the Membership Club / Private Party Model. SJG
• ilbbaicnl

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  2 years ago

  From what I've heard Kappa's flexible about dancers working when they want to, coming late, leaving early. Will make it harder to claim employee status. The Cabaret Club suit was more complicated, a dancer got the manager on tape calling her the n-word. Clubs claim they get a lot of charge disputes on credit card payments, so they need to take a percentage to cover them. If that's true, the only alternative would be for dancers to wait 60 days, past when the charge can be disputed. Or, refuse to take plastic.
• san_jose_guy

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  2 years ago

  The club needs to prove that they are contractors. Like how much freedom they have over what they do (costuming, stage sets, hours). If club can do this, they may stay contractors. But in CA, because of Dynamech and AB5, you cannot use contractors for the regular content of your business. And other states have long been following CA Labor Law. So the only choice we have if clubs are to still be nasty is: So we have to get out from under this and go to the Membership Club / Private Party Model. SJG Figueroa will be getting better now that CA has lifted the loitering with intent law [view link] miggs : "Let The Games Begin" starring LINDSAY LOHAN (OFFICIAL VIDEO) [view link]