Comments by Manuellabore (page 4)

Dolfan: Since there can only be one ATF, the word “current” is redundant (I.e. superfluous)

The Squire is a little trashy but closer than GB or Boardroom.

Since we’re doing a deep dive into terminology, “ATF” gets misused a lot, and “current ATF” is inherently redundant. There are only ATFs and “former” ATFs. There are also CFs, of course. The CF may also be an ATF, but doesn’t have to be. The CF doesn’t necessarily supplant an ATF you are no longer seeing. I’ve gradually come to the realization that the SC life can be a lot less complicated (and complications are fun-killers) if I don’t have any “favorites” at all, as long as I am confident that the desired level of quality companionship will be available

Not to defend CLNJ, but hitting any club within two hours of opening can be a crapshoot. I’ve recently met a couple hot, fun women in the 6 to 7:00 time frame. They say they start around 4-4:30, which probably means they hit the floor around 5-5:30

Nah. I'm too focused on hooking up with a woman who is out of my league IRL and marveling at the opportunity.

I read the same discouraging reviews before a first-time, one night visit a couple years ago. Managed to get FS at Purple Diamond. That’s not to say that the streets are lined with pussy. Hope you like beer, because there’s no hard alcohol served in SCs. Also, the few places that have day shifts are a waste of time. Go check out Beale Street and the Lorraine and Peabody Hotel ( The Peabody was the inspiration for the Commodore Hotel in Little Feat’s “Dixie Chicken”) instead. Or Graceland, if you’re into that. I’m not. Any Winehouse is my go-to self-destructive artist. Her music is more fun to fuck by anyway

No extras at Centerfold, and you'll be lucky to get out of a 15 minute VIP for under $500 (with ho tip), and that's if you push back against relentless upselling by the host/hostess (not even the dancer). It's like going to one of those time share sales deals. Glass Slipper struck me as a dump but I was surprised to see a recent review saying they've got some attractive dancers there. Tough choice. Maybe hit an escort site and spend the money you have left hanging at one of Boston's many fine bars that don't have strippers

A crazy dancer asked to spit in my mouth Monday night, and I remembered this thread. I declined, but it didn't put a damper on things

^ilbb^ Salma is of course the gold standard I aspire towards (I'd step over most twentysomething dancers for a shot at her), but not that I hold myself to. At any given time, any supermarket in a gentrified urban area or an affluent suburb there are going to be at least 3-4 women in their 50s I would take for a no-consequences toss. RockAllNight's age appropriateness scale is interesting. I'm assuming it is intended to apply to civvie women. There really shouldn't be any age standards in the SC, other than our personal standards. I personally steer clear of under-21 dancers in clubs where they are allowed, and there are no doubt young dancers who (foolishly from an economic standpoint) steer clear of my old ass. Anyway, I doubt most civvie women in their thirties think they are fair game for men in their 60s. And, if I was 49, and relegated to women over 29, I would be looking forward to my 50th birthday when I could go back to hitting on 25 year olds. The sliding scale is valid in concept, though. I had a probably ill-advised conversation with one of my daughter's college classmates about the topic and she had a formula like half the man's age plus seven. It put Jennifer Lawrence just out of reach for me at the time.

She would be dead to me. Plenty of fish in the sea, etc etc

I’ve had a couple dancers take my shirt off, which I thought was hot as hell. Most seem to want to see as little as possible of me below the waist. Often, it’s clear they’re worried about club management walking in, and I’m fine with that. Doesn’t really impede doing the deed. I do like the feel of a couple breasts sliding against the inside of my thighs during a BJ, though, which really requires the pants to be down to the ankles

As long as it’s clear it’s just going to be a roll in the hay, I don’t care how old a woman is as long as she’s attractive. I try to draw a bright line with co-workers and those with whom I have a professional relationship, which is the bulk of my exposure to civvie women. Even that is fraught. Couple months ago, came this close to ducking out of an event with a ci-worker to go to another hotel up the street for a "drink", at her suggestion.(Hotel happens ti be a regular choice fof my OTCs) Plenty of booze where we were, and she’s been flirting heavily for a while, insinuating unhappiness in her relatiionship, etc. I snapped out of it and came up with an excuse to GTFO. Too many ways that could go sideways, especially since she is nominally a subordinate

Studme: I don’t tie named dancers to extras. My recent experience has been overall similar to yours, except for success on the two most recent visits. I thought the last one was going to be a washout but it was saved just as I was going to bail. So I understand your skepticism and can only say that sometimes opportunities present themselves

Wounded pride. Go back to the club if you like it. Chances are no other dancers will know or care about the dustup Also seems like a LDK would deserve a bonus over the cost of the dances you thought you did, so you basically came out ok financially

I'm an out of towner but go there whenever I can get up there on business, so the visits are all on Weekdays. I've had the best luck having the most fun weekend afternoons, but fun can be had in the evenings. Just seems like more hotter, open-minded women are available to non-regulars in the afternoons.

Average NFL career: 3.3 years; Average gross earnings over the course of average career: $3 Million. Deduct agent commission: $300K, Taxes $1.2 Million, and exorbitant cost of living over the 3.3 year period due to NFL lifestyle, a prudent, mature, disciplined and otherwise average rookie might be able to net $500-600K in savings. Probably a lot less if he can’t shake off the handlers and hangers on (including the women, maybe especially the women). If you were 21 and somebody told you they would stake you to $600K if you would take a drug that is highly likely to cause long term and permanent damage to your brain that would impair your ability to function by the time you were middle-aged, would you accept the offer? If you are 40 or over now, would you think that such a choice would be prudent? With accrued interest over 40 years, the $600K might cover a decade or two in a residential care facility

I do it all the time. When I'm high. Which is a lot of the time.

I meet a lot who say they are taking online classes to get their real estate licenses. That is definitely a field where good looks can pay off, but you don’t see much follow through

Who says she’s in college. Maybe she took dad’s advice and is forging her own career path. BTW, she’s pretty hot. A little light up top but not a deal breaker for me. And since she was talking about “going to university” she’s probably European and has a fetching accent

^Rightfield^ Some people feel "buzzed" with a .08 BAC , some don't. All are "drunk" (or "under the influence") in the eyes of the law

Sometimes, I’ll go through a thought experiment where a drug is available that will make you permanently comatose, but also in a permanent state of bliss, free from any human strife. I realize I would never take such a drug, which must mean that I groove on strife, which makes me a masochist. And this is why I can’t be more like StripperLover

Buzkill here: I boycott football at all levels. It slowly but surely and permanently damages the brains of talented young men, all for the entertainment of the masses and to further line the pockets of already wealthy individuals. I want no part in such barbarism Like all of my principles, however, this one is subject to compromise. If the Eagles get past the first playoff game I’ll check in because I like the energy it brings to the city. Also, during a second OTC encounter yesterday with a front runner for current favorite, my companion mentioned that she wanted her 14 year old son ( also named Manuel, BTW) to go out for football. I didn’t say shit OTOH, I’ll break out the soapbox during more casual encounters at the club if dancers ask if I like football. Invariably, they will ask “What’s CTE?”

My “mistakes” come when I try to make a good time happen when it’s just not in the cards, and end up spending a lot of money unproductively. Also, when I’ve had an unexpectedly sublime experience and instead of just basking in the afterglow I shit all over it by trying to chase something even better

Worst patron/dancer ratio I’ve ever heard of for this place

Yes, please