Comments by Manuellabore (page 3)

Touching. I really like getting women off, and there’s a better chance of accomplishing that with my hands and tongue, and with repetition, than with PIV, although that’s the ultimate payoff If she gets too handsy, I’m liable to blow before I get that PIV payoff, so I try to keep her distracted. And BJs just don’t do it for me. So my preferred sequence is making out, followed by some titty sucking and FIV, then DATY, and then either cowgirl or mish, during which I’m still sucking tits or face. After that, stamina permitting, it’s Ladies’ Choice

Never had a monetary discussion about touching or fingering a pussy. Some, but not many, will guide your hand to it.like Icey said. But the fact they’re not proactive about it doesn’t mean they’re not into it. Just take it slow and steady. If they guide your hand away or verbalize their disapproval, then you have your answer I won’t say FIV is a prerequisite to moving on to VIP, let alone OTC, but she would have to make a hell of a sales pitch otherwise. That’s not to say you can’t have a pleasant, low-key LD without it

It’s not the norm Neither is watching somebody else’s business in the LD room and reporting on it Neither is watching somebody else’s business in the LD room and reporting on it and then repeating the same report a year later

Saw nothing that appealed. Can count on the fingers of one hand the number of dancers who have ever said anything political to me. I just say: "Sorry, I don't like to talk about politics." (Makes me think of the Costa Rican MILF spinner I see OTC who told me upon first meeting: "I just like to talk about sex". She also likes ot talk about her messed up life, though ). If they ask me a direct question about my political views, I answer it directly and succinctly

Was the “Meta” in the title of this topic intended to foreshadow that a discussion that was supposed to be about the toxicity of political discourse would itself inevitably turn toxic?

While I thought the original post was clear, the issue has nothing to do with exercise or abstinence or Viagra or weird supplements or the setting or hardons generally. It is specific to blowjobs. FS is no problem

That could be disastrous for me. I’ve pretty much gotten shed of regulars, but the ones I had understood they should only text me during the workday, when prying eyes don’t have access to my phone. When I do exchange numbers now, I make sure they understand it is a “don’t text me, Ill text you” situation, and make sure that both text tone and ringer are on silent for the phony but legitimate-sounding name I save it under

Better than the the $200 sushi dinners that people were on about on another thread.

Is it controversial to wonder who, other than dirtbags who are up to no good (like Hezbollah) uses pagers anymore anyway? They could put a dab of explosives in every one that comes off the line and none of us would be the worst for it

Comparably toxic, which is why I steer clear of both. Nobody ever convinces anybody to change their mind via political discourse over the internet, so what’s the point? I value the input of TUSCLers of all political stripes when it comes to our common interests , and, for me, pie-throwing contests over unrelated topics can ruin the esprit de corps. I follow other topic-focused sites on social media (classic movies, history, etc) and am chagrined when somebody comes up with a pretext to slip in a political diatribe. At least Founder has created a separate sandbox for such topics and most people abide by that. BTW, I am politically active and have deeply held political beliefs that I try not to reveal when I’m going on about nonsense like inadvertently eating out a dancer on her period. I did try to persuade a naturalized Brazilian dancer who has somehow never voted why it was important for her to do so and why I support the candidate I want to win. As we all like to say “Sometimes it only takes one dancer/voter”

As of June, a dancer I know told me they were only going regular LDs, no VIP, presumably because of the legal troubles

Whodey is giving you some sound action items. From your description, it's not clear that you've been following up adequately. It's not on her to firm up all of the details. You need to present a proposal where all she needs to say is yes or no or, of there's a "maybe", where you can convert it to a "yes". If she's down for OTC, it won't matter that you weren't proactive before now

Sunset Strip in upstate NY runs porn in their VIPs and also has mirrors on the walls, so there’s no shortage of visual stimuli

I was thinking of Desire. IIRC, they have 1 TV on a business channel, and the others on SportsCenter or actual sporting events. As usual, Desire tends to get things right

You’re not in the wrong. At some point, an interaction can go on long enough that a tip is in line to compensate a dancer for her time (and, to get her to move on) but there has to be way more two way discussion than a declined offer for a dance

A “news” station makes no sense from a business standpoint, since regardless of which is selected, it’s going to elicit a negative reaction from some segment of the patrons, maybe just enough to make them decide to go somewhere else next time. It’s hard to go wrong with sports. Alternatively, run a business network, so the patrons pretending that they are players can pretend it makes a difference to them what’s happening in the markets. A club I used to spend a lot of afternoons in runs USA network, which shows reruns of dumb TV series that nobody ever watched in the first place. Guessing the bartender was a fan

Made business trips to London and Paris nearly 20 years ago. No research before hitting London, so I asked the driver of my Black Cab to take me to a strip club, he escorted me to the door of some place (where he preset a kickback) and the host put me in a booth where some sullen Eastern European woman was assigned to sit with me. No stage in sight. I GTFO, and spent the rest of my London evenings getting drunk on my ass in regular pubs where the locals wanted to talk about the NFL (they knew more about it than I did) Before hitting Paris, I actually did some research and learned about an American-style club called Stringfellows. Turned out there was one in London too. Not a clip joint (cover, drinks and dance costs comparable to USA), but no indication extras were on the horizon, although that wasn’t on my radar at that time. There were a couple other similar clubs in central Paris, all within walking distance. There were touts lurking outside each one urging you not to go in but instead get in a car with them where they’d take me to a place where I could spend the night with a beautiful mademoiselle for what it would cost to spend a half hour in the SC. “Taken” hadn’t come out by then, but I had a sense that they might sell me into sex slavery, so I declined in favor of touching some scantily clad T & A

Speaking of hard ons for Ukrainians, what’s the experience been, mileage-wise? I’ve been with two, that I can recall, and they were relatively chaste, unlike the refugees from Marxist countries like Cuba and Venezuela

Predictions on the outcome of the Presidential election and control of Congress are inherently speculative. The odds would have to be heavily skewed one way or the other to make a bet attractive, and they won’t be.

Last I knew she was dancing at Cherrleaders in Philadelphia

Thinking about it further, I must have read something about the BYO liquor, because I recall bringing a half-pint of Tito's into the Gold Club during a futile afternoon visit. Not my habit to carry alcohol on me. I shared a drink with the one dancer in the club and left her with the bottle. BTW, I have no idea what Gold Club is like in the evening. It seems huge while empty. The one thing I can say is that there is a clear view of the bar from the LD area, and presumably a clear view of the LD are from the bar.

Rick: I do think some clubs provide "setups" for customer-provided hard liquor at a price

Agree “current all-time” anything is oxymoronic as well

3 pairs that is

Bought her pasties from the sex shop next door because she thought her top was too revealing (they come in 3 packs BTW)