Comments by JeffTUSCL (page 7)

So many girls who model and don't have any other normal job or a job that is mainstream but doesn't pay well, are often scraping for money. On first glance when people see their Photoshopped asses looking classy and hot in a spread or shoot or promo they think the girl has it made. A good enough number of these girls are always looking for a sponsor or 2 or 3. A subset of THOSE girls would never put themselves out there with a pimp, or in escort ads, or even sites like SA and certainly are too much into regular life (or not smutty hot enough) to do the IG model thing. Those are the perfect girls to find, but now they are impossible to find thanks to the government.

25% or better, but given his nonchalant description of it, he probably had herpes before sitting down for the lapdance

Never encountered this exact situation but it would be cool if it was a mainstream magazine and not a B class jack mag or something like a tattoo or niche mag. I've hooked up p4p with some hotties over the years who I stumbled on later in porn videos. None of them star level, though. There have also been a number of exquisitely attractive girls I've p4p with and found them through discreet channels who were legit models (not porn or even soft stuff but for fashion and mainstream) just not top models anyone would recognize. I'm in the middle of LA so it may not be as uncommon as it sounds.

ei8ht_Ball, the threshold has been lowered to $5,000 even if it's a straight deposit in your origin branch. Giving advice on this type of thing is questionable but presuming she is reporting all the income to the IRS then there is no problem, right? :) This is not advice, it may even be idiotic: But perhaps numerous things can be paid for in cash (groceries, clothes, fuel, household stuff, entertainment) while things like rent can be paid for with cashiers checks created at places like Western Union. That would reduce bank deposits. Another option is to spread deposits into multiple banks. There's also brokerage accounts and IRAs as an option (also both good for long-term investment). It's also important, just like any tip-based job, to report a reasonable portion of tips as income. If not and such a person with otherwise "low" income (what is reported only by her employers), the IRS could certainly uncover that someone's lifestyle is way beyond their means based on what they report. The IRS is not looking at people unless they trigger an audit, which is randomized, but discretion is important to avoid people who don't like her dropping a dime on her.

FTS has the right idea

Another one, this one is one of the best I could find. This guy is my hero: https://www.google.com/search?q=kate+cathcart&source=lnms&tbm=isch

I will start with examples, quick Google search: https://www.themodernman.com/wp-content/uploads/ugly-guy-beautiful-girlfriend.jpg https://www.themodernman.com/wp-content/uploads/average-to-ugly-looking-guy-with-beautiful-girlfriend.jpg

Skinny or thin girls usually have small breasts, so on those girls I don't mind implants so long as they are natural and proportional. If I know they are implants but done well enough to suspend my disbelief, then I'm all for it. A further elaboration on the perfect figure to me would be one where she can easily give me a great experience on any of: titty fuck, assjob, jam my cock in deep doggy style without too much cushion in the way but still curvy round, flat stomach so my cum all stays in place when I cum on it. Thinking about it, looks then to me is all about seeing hot women as objects for my personal pleasure. I admit it.

I think Tinder is crumbling a bit and no longer really working as well as before for matching. They shifted to creating 2 higher tiers and 1 of them you can't even pay to get in. They are in the cash-out phase. Competition comes from apps like Bumble but that piece of shit went the opposite and just put more power to female profiles. You're still swiping but even if you get a match, the females have to initiate a chat within 24 hours or the match disappears. These bitches don't chat. They put their IG on there, which you can't find the link to, and seem to have some perception that the chats will happen on IG. Chats don't happen on Bumble, nothing ever moves to IG. If they type out their IG then all they want are followers, they sure as hell won't engage with a guy they can't easily connect the dots with as being a match they made on a swipe app. Bumble was supposed to carve out the sexually aggressive, creepy men but all they do is just get far fewer people interacting. Most other swipe apps also fail on their gimmick.

I believe it is primarily psychological and not physical, but there is a chemical component that involves the body only when humans are touching each other. There are times I'm really wanting some action but because of work or time of day or other circumstances I just can't find an available option. So I jack off which never seems to be just a 5 minute process, I flip through multiple porn videos to find just the right type of scene and girl and flip through a few more til I'm done. Immediately after, I lose all interest in the desire I had for action and wonder why I wanted more than to just pleasure myself. Until 24 or no more than 48 hours later I have the same urge again. When I instead fulfill what I want with an actual live girl, my urges seem to hold for about a week. There is something about the female touch and presence that provides so much more satisfaction. There is also the exhilaration of someone new, sometimes primarily because it's someone new but partly because there is a thrill challenge. I very often engage with women without there being a clear idea of what I want and I enjoy building them toward doing more by gradually turning up the heat. Sometimes they put the breaks on and sometimes they go further than even I would have expected. One last thought is that I seem to love or even crave having a girl watch me cum, whether on her or while she has my dick in her hand. I also love to experience feelings that your hand just can't do - how it feels when a hot babe keeps sucking you as you come in her mouth and keeps sucking it in until you're fully done then giggles and smiles and cuddles up to you for a bit after. I seriously believe that is one of the key things that holds the world together from turning into absolute destruction and chaos. The male pursuit to seek that kind of satisfaction and to create means and resources to achieve it whether once or continuously.

Just walking into one in the first place, ever. They are some of the most expensive way to burn money in the pursuit of sexual gratification than just about anything else.

DC, in a sense yes. In order to make it work, those who would otherwise get the abundance of matches would have to suffer the consequences of reduced matches, or not getting their normal rate of matches if they didn't properly engage the range of matches they did get. Any human being getting more than a few matches a day is already overflowing. Think about it like an app where people swipe for free food. As matches increase, the volume of rotations decrease. Traditional dating web sites are more heavily male audience but swipe apps are closer to equilibrium on the ratio of men and women. That won't automatically trigger women to swipe right on men they otherwise wouldn't when the options are overflowing, but if the pool of guys is proportionally shrunk down when the top ones are rotated out more often, the portion of men they choose from the remaining will statistically stay the same - because they will still perceive they are choosing from the top 15% of what's available. Their match counts will remain relatively the same and the main difference is that more guys who otherwise would not make the cut can now at least engage with more matches and increase their real results.

For the girl in question, we were having a long conversation with her in my lap and I tipped her a couple of $20's. I didn't have to, I just did so to keep the interaction extended without wasting her time. I then got a couch dance with her, and that was it.

@twentyfive "That seems to be a bit of a dick move , why bother?" Seems like a dumb question. We negotiate to see what we can get. Do you always pay for a service you negotiated for if the lowest negotiated price is still higher than you care for? If you do then you're kind of dumb.

Problem with broad descriptions is they can easily be interpreted to the extreme. Skinny to me sounds like it means bone-thin which I think many agree is not a turn-on. Thick, also, doesn't sound like a turn-on to most. I seems necessary to use 2 or more adjectives to most accurately describe a body type. My personal preference for most attractive shape can be described as slender, curvy, fit. The type of body found on a girl in her mid-20s who eats healthy and does Yoga multiple times a week with some regular form of cardio like running or crossfit. I've noticed a swing in the past few years toward ulra-curvy and huge asses to the point of being a cartoon. I don't think this is a real attraction point for most men as much as it is easier to advertise womanly assets when they are exaggerated, and today's younger males are being blasted with more of these types of bodies as being optimal - like Kim Kardashian and her clan, most of whom I think are abhorrently ugly. Huge asses, too much cosmetic surgery, caked-on makeup.

Interesting other topic should be a separate discussion, but as I've been kind of a sex addict for nearly 15 years I've noticed clear patterns that indicate when the best availability of hotties will be and when they will tend to need the most extra money, thus more open-minded and available. * Before the end of a month (rent due) * More common on weekdays than party nights, but LA throws this off a little as any night in LA can be a party night * Early evening (before they go out) * Before major family holidays, this would include Mother's Day as a lot of girls with daddy issues who do p4p overly love their mothers * Almost never available before or during party holidays like Halloween, New Years, St Patty's... * Almost never available when a major music festival is going on within 100 miles * Almost never available early mornings (the only hot babes who get up early AM are fitness-centric or ambitious and if you happen to bag one of those who like to p4p with you, you will feel like a very luck man because these girls are usually smart & awesome on top of being cute as hell) * If you are in a big city that has a busy nightlife and the girls you seek do have regular jobs (mostly server type jobs like hostess, bartender, bottle service) then late nights won't work for their schedule, daytime or early evening are best. If you are a night owl sometimes the best is to get them after their shifts, because if you have a nice place and they have at least some genuine attraction to you will stay overnight without any extra expectations - though they will tend to verbally set boundaries more often Counting on random events like her car breaking down or getting unexpected big pet vet bills is not a reliable strategy. Timing the more consistent calendar-driven time frames is way more reliable. If anyone wants to start this as a new topic, you can copy from my post here.

I guess I didn't answer the question. I have experienced 10s for the $300 range up to $350 but not OTC from a club. Have not done that yet. If I were to have access to OTC with a true 10/10 from a SC, I would say $400 max. I supposed that sounds cheap, but I'm extremely good at negotiating and vibe decently with "working girls" (simply put I don't gross them out which diffuses common residences they're used to). I don't think I would even do that as it would probably require a hotel room too and no club near me where OTC would even be an option or desire would be close enough to my home. With hotel, I would say $300 maybe $350. Without hotel (my home or at her place), $400. The best offer I've had so far was a pretty hot blonde from 4Play the last time I went say she'd come over my place for $500 when normally she does $1,000 and higher. I declined. She didn't bring up the discussion, though, I lead her to it out of curiosity. Sounded like most or all her clients (of which I gathered were at most 5-6 she rotated through) were elderly lawyer or doctor types that she provided sensual massages to. $1,000+ for just a jack-off to these dweebs, I think $1,500 if she did an extended menu with them and I talked her down to $500 for the whole menu yet didn't partake.

I believe it's one of the most uncommon things to encounter a 10/10 in a strip club. My first visit to 4Play in LA years ago I saw a girl dancing on stage that was unequivocally a 10 in looks. Never talked to her, no idea about anything else. Of any club I have ever visited since then I may see many 9 quality ladies but personalities never go above 7 or 8. Up until a few months ago I was having a long time p4p arrangement with what I would consider a 9/10 looks/personality and we saw each other regularly off the clock, max I ever helped her out with at any given time was less than $300. Many years ago as a younger guy I partook in some high quality bookings through agencies but capped most encounters at $350. A lot of very attractive ladies but only 1 of which I would rate 10/10 and another a 10/9. Can't remember either name, I think the 10/10 was named Cara from a Miami agency. I booked just an hour but I don't think had any appointments after me as she seemed to be totally cool with me being there for over 2 hours. We fucked 3 times and in between I recall she got a call from her boyfriend right before we fucked another time. She had a perfect petite body, thin and curvy, tan olive tone skin and a face you'd find on the cover of a top fashion magazine. Perfect natural and perk C cups, I think she was 22 or 23. Perfect pristine pussy. She was sweet and bubbly. That appointment was $300. Never got a chance to see her again as her agency never sent her back to my area. Few years later I heard the agency got busted. Thankfully even with their screening process they never had any info of mine that was real.

I sure hope so! But I doubt it. I'm trying to keep an eye out for when Ariana Marie if ever does a SC appearance in SoCal or somewhere I may be traveling at the time. GPS no problem for her. I know she does some carefully screened escorting but those rates would be ridiculous. Talking her into some under-the-radar cum-swallowing in a dark room in the back of a strip club would be a more satisfactory fantasy fulfillment. Spending 2 hours with her in a hotel room may also be exquisite but not if it means trading a mortgage payment to make it happen.

Not common? Pretty sure better than 50% of strippers in the US at least once in the day has to wipe man juice off their skin.

New swipe apps are constantly getting it wrong on how to beat the last app. The wrong is that they think their success is to cater to women. If they catered to men more, they would thrive. They can do this by implementing a maximum match ratio for the top % of men. Those men's options will not be stunted enough to matter perceptually to them, and the match pressure then pushes down to the remaining men who get better exposure so that the 20/80 (or 20/60) gets closer to an equilibrium. Women will not notice much of a difference since they will always be satisfied to be able to choose among the match overlaps they feel were within their selection power. What do I mean by this? Imagine a room of 1,000 men. Women are asked to choose the top 20%. If the top 20% are already known before choices are made, you remove those top 20% and ask women to choose their top 20% of the remaining 800 - never telling them that 200 have been taken off the plate. They will still perceive that their selections are valuable as they are the ones doing the selecting.

"Mystery shoppers" "KGB" what's the difference?

The final brunette was attractive but I would have more considered 1 of the 2 early blondes. Any case, I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with swipe culture. In the right context, it makes sense. Imagine this guy is in a strip club where his goal is high mileage. There are 30 strippers to choose from but he has only 1 liquid present to give. He first chooses a small set that have potential and interviews each in the LD area before deciding which to take to VIP. For dating, he can't swipe right on everything he might settle for, but he has to swipe right on enough so that he can get a better statistical chance to get a match. This particular guy in the video has a better statistical chance to get a match that he can then whittle down to than a more average looking guy who might get barely any matches, so that guy has to swipe right more because the herd will thin more harshly for him. A woman, even an average one, doing the same thing could have swiped left on 28 of 30 guys and still had a chance with at least 1 of the remaining. The reliability for her to get exactly what she wants in looks, or at least very close to it, isn't even a challenge. The challenge for her is to find someone who she can either fuck easily or is compatible to date. From her smaller set of more selective choices, she determines the range of men and the perception of what she can have. I think a better study would be to take a group of 30 men and 30 women and try to ensure ALL are matched up to at least reasonable satisfaction, with everyone understanding that none of them are guaranteed to get the exact person they want. Have multiple rounds of mutual swiping left-right and as each 2 people are paired off with mutual satisfactory matches, the remaining keep repeating the swipe left-right game with each other. Eventually, everyone is paired off. Will all of those pairings be happy? Probably not, the bottom 2/3 will probably wish so strongly for a better match that they would rather have no match than the one they got.

I don't think standards are warped. Everyone has their type but good looking people tend to be a universally objective thing. What is warped is the accessibility of attractiveness and the viability of holding onto that accessibility. Both sexes should logically be affected equivalently but it negatively impacts men more than women, no matter how many "woke" videos like this want to imply that the superficiality is a male evil. By accessibility I mean that we live in a world now where porn is at our fingertips. Not just porn but terabytes and terabytes of endless variety of porn streaming in seconds to any device with a screen, and not just any women but some of the hottest women you can ever come across in everyday life. Also by accessibility, strip clubs and hookers. Pay a fee, touch, get off. You get to choose the best looking and they will not say no, so long as you have the cash. It's all transactional but it is instant gratification with the most attractive women a guy who lived 10,000 years ago might almost never encounter in his entire life. Yet when it comes to the actual results of online dating or regular dating, a man would have to be a superhero to get success with the kind of women he really wants. He has to settle dramatically. Vast majority of men forced to settle. Women's choices are different. They have been positioned now in society to hold the cards and even the most mediocre of women can choose among the top males - who will settle, and most women rotate through these top males. Top 1% of women & men will match up. Remaining top 19% of men will settle for remaining top 79% of women. These women just rotate through these men, who mostly just use them, thus leading to "all men are pigs" and other belief systems. Remaining 80% of men battle for the remaining bottom 20% of women and are disenfranchised. The cycle of transactional instant gratification intensifies.

What's a breastaurant? Are we talking hooters (where we will ed up with thousands of useless reviews that can be found on Yelp) or something that involves topless? If it involves topless, how would it be different that regular SC listings?