Comments by JeffTUSCL (page 6)

What do you mean typically? Never heard of a tour angle where a guy is entrapped to a specific room as a way to squeeze money out of him.

I've pre-paid if it's a low going rate compared to what I believe the average for the place is. Seems like the timidity or inexperience of the girl plays more into it and her aptitude about how not to get ripped off. The dancers with a bit more experience and confidence seem to be able to negotiate beforehand but not expect a payment until after because the are confident enough to pull it out of the guy one way or another if they get stiffed at pay time.

Still a better love story than Twilight

>>> "I have NEVER had an SB not accept PPM, even if she proposes allowance first. If I were making the same point but with my experience, I'd say: all SBs will take PPM no matter what they say on their profile or whether they ask for allowance at first; but it will often come with a request for a commitment on frequency (e.g., we see each other once a week, so she can count on 4x$PPM each month)" Not disagreeing with this, I think it depends on what you yourself are seeking and what you draw in and filter out. To me a girl who sets explicit expectations that I am not yet willing to agree to until after we meet, is essentially the same as an allowance-based SD-SB relationship. It is like asking a girl out on a date and she won't go out on a date unless you both agree how often you plan to see each other, and at what kind of times and places. When I filter these girls out, I am left with a much smaller pool to choose from. I have noticed that on the few occasions I expanded to go ahead and meet these high expectation girls, I never saw them more than 1 meet as I found them overall annoying, demanding, superficial, and someone I would hate to spend any time with.

>>> "Nowadays with absurdly extreme feminist ideologies and ease-of-hookup social apps, even getting a 6 or 7 interested requires extreme effort and persistence." I was just comparing it to regular life. If I could get a 9 or 10 to date me without some other lure, just for me being me, I would not even be drawn to the world of SC, MP or any other form of p4p. I don't think it has so much to do with the true value of who I am but more about society at large which places a huge importance on superficial values while simultaneously pretending it's not about such values - for example the contradiction of using sexuality as a lure yet publicly lambasting people who fall for the lure and act astonished when a sense of entitlement or desire is projected when such sexuality is exploited. Anyone on this site is essentially a victim of this in one form of another. Women using their sexuality in the extreme to lure for attention, then mocking men who are drawn to it by labeling them as "thirsty". Or #MeToo hypocrisy and conflating mild male behaviors with the extremity of rape. This has left most millennial age men with a confusion and fear over overt projections of sexual interest, subsequently leaving most women confused about how to behave to attract a man they want. Modern feminism is teaching them that it's more than OK to be project extreme sexuality but to reject men who play into that sexuality.

The interesting side discussion here about choice from the sex worker side: - Street hookers have little choice, with the primary choice just being whether the john is safe and not LE - Brothel workers have no choice other that working or not working, though I'm not aware of any real brothels in the US other than Nevada - Massage parlor workers have no choice about the customer but choice over how much of anything she wants to do, within the limits of what the establishment allows - Strippers in the club seem to have less discretion concern over customers but do have clear choice on how far they are willing to go with a customer ITC and obviously absolute choice on who they are open to OTC with and what she does with him OTC - Escorts have almost 0 choice on who they see and if they work for an agency have almost no choice on services offered - Independent escorts have a lot ore flexibility on what they offer and who they see but their services are usually the same across-the-board with all customers. They, like agency escorts, got into it because they don't care very much about discretion over who they see and care more about the maximum money they can make within the limit of their comfort zone - p4p girls who can be found in all walks of life and who don't depend on sex work exclusively will be hugely discretionary on who they see and what they do within their comfort zones but they are the hardest to find and take the most effort to convert - SA and sugar baby girls are also discretionary but place inflated value on their self-worth and will usually not do p4p but seek some kid of set allowance for a fluid but generally accepted agreement

SA is now more hassle than it's worth. Not sure about guys who get booted, they are probably messaging girls explicitly about pay for sex. Stupid. Years ago it was an OK site. There are a few alternates, just use Google, but none are great and most are a waste of time. These kind of site only work well if you are cash heavy and willing to tolerate females who put inflates high worth on themselves. After much time you will notice some profiles linger for years while some profiles come and go within 2 months never to be seen again. I have never done the SD thing, in the past what I have done is find avenues to meet with girls who are open-minded and broke and in the first meet at least get light p4p bt by the 2nd meet at the latest FS p4p in the 200-300 range. Do this weekly and try to juggle 2-3 girls, focus in on the ones who like to hang out and not look at the clock. After a few weeks the process usually scrubs down to 1 girl who likes to come by any time I ask, enjoy dinner or a movie, have sex, cuddle, talk, then eventually leave. A while of this often leads to hanging out with each other off the clock and only occasionally p4p but most definitely 2 things distinguish this from a normal relationship: dating and cuddling usually never implies p4p but any time sex happens it's p4p and also all dating activities are paid for by me. Very occasionally the lines are blurred and the girl insists to pay for some dating activities. It is very easy to catch feelings and becomes very awkward to know what to do, with every action toward normalcy leading to a breakdown of the dynamic. This process over the years has often been painful for me, as just about every girl I have done this with were open and lovable. They would not be girls I could initially get without p4p. 9 or sometimes 10 in looks but the best I can get in normal dating life would be 6 or 7. Meeting girls from SA or similar the results might be the same but the cost is huge in comparison. Nowadays with absurdly extreme feminist ideologies and ease-of-hookup social apps, even getting a 6 or 7 interested requires extreme effort and persistence. Anyone with serious money, SA is like shooting fish in a barrel, but not that many guys have such serious money. I make a decent living but the extra cash is only good for a conservatively paced p4p with occasional SC visits and occasional MP visits. The company that owns SA also owns WhatsYourPrice which has a lot of the same time of girls but aspects are different - you pay for credits that never expire and then have to spend credits to open a conversation, but only if she accepts an initial offer for a date, which is negotiated directly on the site first. The turnover to meets is much higher on this site but going from that to anything more is seemingly near impossible. Based on experience so far as compared to SA, I've determined that 50% or more of accepted offers end up in at least a meet but 99% of the girls will only meet for dinner or similar at a public location and they will never do anything sexual, they will keep meeting men for first dates only to collect their lame $80-100 for the meet. The girls on WYP will also have this strange twist of acting like it's normal to get paid to meet for dates and nothing else happens. A lot of crazies as well. I think for any guys who have trouble talking to women, it may be good for that and just burn the money to go on 10 or 12 first dates. Do not ever pay more than $100 for a meet, nothing more will ever happen than a $100 meet. Some MILFs will meet up for $75 or $80. They all give the same BS story when talking over dinner, to pretend their way out of what the site is really for. In doing that, nothing ever ends up happening for them and you're likely to see the same profiles up for months and months. The only profiles that are very short lived are the extremely attractive ones that never accept anything under $300 to meet and give up quickly when they realize they're not getting free money even from saps.

The first time I nut in a strip club I was in Montreal traveling by myself. I had been to the city before and had been to 2 strip clubs with friends where touching was allowed, but limited roaming. This was fabulous as anywhere else I had been to in the states was air dances or just no-touch light grinding so on this solo visit I made a plan to visit a variety of strip clubs in my spare time. At one of the clubs n the downtown area, the atmosphere was a bit low-end and not many dancers. I don't remember the name of the club, there were no more than 10 dancers when I had stopped by in the afternoon. There was a cute goth looking girl with a nice hot body, pale skin. She wasn't only a bit goth with tattoos, some piercings and jet black straight hair. Petite build, really sweet body, great ass. She came by my table and we talked for about 20 minutes, she had a super sexy accent. She talked me into going into a private booth and I was looking forward to touching her body. I had no idea anything more could be had, it was just some shitty booth the size of a closet and a curtain for privacy. This was not anywhere in the back or tucked away, but just against one of the walls where patrons and other strippers would constantly be walking by. I think we went back there for 5 songs, I don't remember what the limit was that we talked about. She was leading my hands all over her tits and to her ass, it was fantastic and I naturally gravitated to wanting to touch her more places. The club was very dark and this chair closet was even darker. She was still wearing her thong but her top came off. She pulled my hand away as my hands moved to rub her pussy - she didn't pull it away immediately, but moved it aside. I was feeling quite a bit turned on by her and went in for another try at her pussy and this time she let me rub her underneath her thong/bikini bottom and I could feel her getting wet. Next thing I knew she told me to unbuckle my pants. I thought because she was rubbing against the belt but as soon as I unbuckled to my surprise she reached into my pants and grabbed my cock. Pants got pulled down a bit and turned around and was rubbing her ass cheeks on my cock. I could still feel that she had her thong on and the whole experience was getting crazy, and I ended up moving her thong aside and she started giving me an ass job. The rest is a bit of a blur other than I ended up ejaculating yet to this day can't figure out where the cum went. None ended up on my stomach and there didn't seem to be anything to clean up. My brain was so fried from the experience I think she may have just grabbed my dick and pointed it down at the floor as I came. Or maybe it was so dark I didn't notice she may have put a condom on me and taken it off after I came. Gave her $100 CAD tip if I remember correctly which in those days was $65 USD. I was fantasizing about that experience for weeks, and getting back to the states could never manage to repeat anywhere near that experience. I did have a close experience some years later in Florida (I think Ft Lauderdale) but was more of a bust-in-pants experience. I had no idea that real mileage could be had anywhere, that it was all BS and believed the "no sex in the champagne room" mantra. Until this year. Thank you TUSCL.

What's a regular? Most people ask the "What hobbies do you have?" within the first 1 or 2 times spending time with a person.

Never saw the ignore feature, then seems like many people are gluttons for punishment if they know about it and still tolerate the trolls.

P.S. You're welcome.

That's it. If you want to un-hide someone you're filtering out just take their name out of the list. If you want to hide someone new, just add their name. Put single-quotes around the name and a comma between each name. If the features screws anything up or you think you messed something up you can disable the "Recipe" from the options or just ask me a question if you need help. This will hide both comments within discussion topics as well as the discussion topics appearing within the topic lists. So right now I don't see any posts or comments at all from the 3 users in the copy & paste code from above.

Sorry that URL to enter gets auto-linked on this forum, the link should be (remove spaces): http s://w ww.tu scl.net/

The way I set it up you can edit the list yourself. I will see if it's as easy to do with other browsers. Here's the steps (presuming you use Chrome): Install the Monkey Wrench plugin for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/monkey-wrench/baemnbkeofdleidjnpjfoleobieckdlk?hl=en A little tool icon will appear at the top right of your browser (it looks like a wrench & hammer overlapped). Right-click it and click "Options" from the menu that appears. A new tab will appear. Click the "New" menu option at the top. For the presented fields, enter these values: Name: DeTrollTUSCL URL: https://www.tuscl.net/ Leave the other fields blank. Then, lastly, click the "JS" tab (the one to the right of the "Settings" tab) and copy & paste this JavaScript code in the text area (and after you do click the "UPDATE" button at the bottom): /* List of trolls you want to hide here, you can edit this list of names as you please */ var TrollArray = Array('twentyfive', 'Lil_Baller100', 'Nicole1994'); /* Don't edit stuff below*/ var Trolls = {}; for (var i = 0; i < TrollArray.length; i++) { Trolls[TrollArray[i]] = 1; } $(document).ready(function(){ $('.link.profile').each(function(){ if (typeof Trolls[$(this).text()] !== 'undefined') { $(this).closest('div.comment,div.discussion').hide(); } }); });

I don't read what they post, I learned after a couple days it's not worth it. The problem with not really having an interest in those topics is that even having a general conversation eventually the topics go there. Although I'm sure intelligent people can carry conversations in these topics as much as anyone else, the more low brow crowd doesn't deviate from such topics very much. I'm sure as much as I can't have much of a conversation about sports teams or MMa fighting, NASCAR, varieties of beers or any number of "manly" topics, the same people who can only gravitate to those topics probably can't discuss network programming or datacenter system maintenance or or an interesting new comic book artist. I can find a way to have decent conversations with just about anyone but going to a specific club constantly and long term enough to start to really know management and staff just seems overboard. Yeah, getting a perk here & there sounds cool, but how much of a grind and cost over a long time did that perk really cost? It's like buying $20 of lottery tickets every week and being elated when after a year you get a $100 winner. Besides, the clubs I have been visiting so far I never see any hint of the manager being around and the bar staff are hustling too much to make any real conversation over the loud music.

I'm not sure you guys are aware that it's not possible to link to a specific review on a page given the way the site works right now. Provide the date and title of the review so everyone knows WTF is being talked about.

You say not all men scored 100, implying some did. But you did not say if any other females then you scored 100, so for now presuming just you. Which means that your argument, whatever it is that you're trying to make, is invalid, since more men scored 100 than women so far in this story.

I'm not into MMA or sports or having conversations about working out. I can't pretend I know enough to have conversations about those things either.

I presumed the first review, just read it.

Subraman, how would you recommend befriending the managers or bouncers when you are horrible at randomly befriending strangers? I don't know how many of us go to the same clubs over & over to the point where this would actually work. I don't even go to the same restaurants often enough to get familiar with the bartenders, servers or managers.

DC, you can turn cash into a cashier's check at many places, including the Post Office but I would not recommend the Post Office. The problem is you can't do it too often at the same place or rings will bell. I don't do any of this junk myself, all my income is reported, but things like criminal tactics and money laundering is a fascination of mine.

>> And what do you mean by "but discretion is important to avoid people who don't like her dropping a dime on her"? Is there a typo in there? Not sure how it's being read that makes it confusing. People who have enemies have to use discretion, or those enemies will drop a dime (rat out) someone who seems o be living way above their means. Like an Instagram model who doesn't appear to have any real job yet is constantly vacationing in exotic places and occasional photos of herself coming off a private jet or shopping at way too expensive places. You know that's only possible because she's willing to get shit and pissed on by a Saudi prince and his entourage. Those pictures don't make it to Instagram.

ei8ht_Ball that's what it says in a lot of online sources but often information like that by the time it gets to the web is outdated and repeated. I got it directly from a bank manager's mouth about a year ago, the threshold used by banks and the government is $5,000. Maybe it's different by state or locale or type of bank?

I have a memorable face. Sometimes that's good sometimes that's bad.

This discussion reminded me of something from a long time ago. There was a place in a city I used to live in which was not a strip club but more like a massage setup in a large house-like location and the private rooms were used for strip shows one-on-one, dancer of choosing. I only went there a few times, was kind of expensive but I'm a perv and want to try stuff like this at least sometimes. Time is up they knock the door type of deal. First time I went I had no idea what to do, maybe I was clueless as I was still pretty young. The few places to leech reviews from back then every reviewer bashed the place because no extras and was a scam. Most of the girls were subpar anyway but with lineups I could always go for the best hotties, there was always at least one 8 or 9 in the bunch. I went there maybe 10 times before I lost interest. The deal was girls always kept their string bikinis on, no nudity, guy had to keep clothes on. The girls would all go through these rules talks before a session started. After the first time no-results, not even a HJ, I came up with a few angles. First angle was since they seemed OK with jeans off for the lapdance so long as there underwear, I would wear the kind of boxers that were super-loose and no button for the fly. So when they were lapping, junior would always pop out WHOOPS. They would feel it and 2 of them jumped off and switched around their dance moves but at least let me jack myself while they danced. The rest thought it was funny or a "go" and would dry hump me or get nude and give me a HJ and let me cum on them somewhere, tits or ass. It was funny to me how 1 choice of clothing and taking perverseness a step up at a certain place made the difference. Not a single dancer freaked out or read me the riot act. 1 who was hesitant to do anything except dance saw that I seemed a little bored rubbing myself decided to give me a HJ and then I encouraged her to give me an assjob and came like buckets on her back. She was a cute little college girl, an innocent bunny encouraged to play. One time I took an angle a step further and told this very hot girl that I was there because my buddy was having a bachelor party in a couple months and I wanted to find a girl for the party. There was no bachelor party. But she got so into wanting to be picked for the gig. After my dick popped out of my clothing selection, I told her that seemed to indicate I was potentially interested and asked her to show me what she could offer for her shows and she got me and her naked and put me on the floor 69 while she blew me and I ate her out. She kept saying we're not supposed to do this stuff here, the doors aren't locked and management was allowed to walk in any time. I told her the place I was renting for the party was a classy place and can't leave a mess so she showed me she could take it in her mouth and swallow. That was very dishonest of me but it made me wonder what was possible from bullshitting to girls who do this sort of thing for a living. It was either that or she was 100% amazing at role playing and just went with it.