Comments by theDirkDiggler (page 7)

I'm with most of the TUSCLers in that if i only get one dance, it probably means one and done forever, so absolutely no tip no matter what she says. The only exception is, and this is a personal quirk, is if either before, during or after the dance, i recognize that i'm not particularly attracted to the dancer, and in my case it could be as simple as the girl being a 7 and not a 9, but she did everything else right and then some. She had a pleasant or better personality, went over and beyond with mileage, really put in the effort. But i just have no interest in making her a regular dancer or even dancing with her again, but in this case off of a $20 dance, i'll probably tip $5. $10 if the dance was UHM at a typically HM club (so two levels higher than average). If it was a $30 dance (like i'm usually accustomed to), then i'll probably tip $10. $5 if something was still a little off. As for upcharging dances, i have never paid more than the established rate (which seems to be fixed at the clubs i frequent, as the girls usually have to pay a portion to the house as well), and if a girl asked for more than that, it would be a non-starter from the get go. If she asked for the "upcharged" rate after the dance, i'd just laugh and refuse and pay the house rate and let her deal with the dance counter. But this theoretical situation has NEVER happened IME, upcharged dance prices, except in the case where a club hires a feature porn star / performer where the dance prices stated upfront are generally $20 more each. Never partook in those either. I also generally consider stacking dances, say 3+ dances, is a tip in itself, but many dancers don't seem to see it the same way or maybe they're just greedy. Think about it, it takes about 3 songs to get just one dance, the song before you go to the chump station, the song of the dance, and the song after you finish, and that doesn't include the time it takes to sell the dance in the first place, which might also take a few songs. So it takes a lot of time to get only one dance if the dancer can only sell one, but if she sells 3 or more than that's like an hour worth of "work" that she only took around 10-15 minutes of "dance" time plus however long it took to sell the dances. I started a discussion about this many moons ago... https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php?id=52856

Dental dams actually protect the girl more than the guy, but the girl is the one that feels nothing from it...

Not to sound sketchy, but be extra careful with black chicks going the extras route as around half or more of them have genital herpes; it could be much higher with sex workers. If you include cold sores, it might be just about all of them (and yes, transmitting HSV-1, cold sores, to the genitals is actually getting much more common now that kids are not as exposed to it early in life anymore)...

Welp, that silly criteria was short-lived. The dancers rating is back and i guess for those that never noticed any change, it will just be some type of twilight zone moment...

For what it's worth i generally wear the same few PL outfits i set aside specifically for SCing. And literally only 2-3 SCing pants/jeans (yes i still wear jeans to the SC) that i wear all the time and only one or two pair of SCing shoes that i've kept remarkably clean. Wearing the same pants over a period of years actually wears them down a bit, softening them up particularly around the knees and the crotch. I have noticed the girls that seem to wear the same outfit every time i see them but i tend to go to the SCs usually on the same days of the week so maybe that's not their only outfit. It still looks a little lazy and cheap, but in general i could care less about the clothes that are on them. I like them a lot better off of them. It also seems a little hypocritical in my case as even if i'm not wearing the same thing every time, it's almost the same look every time. I do wear freshly washed clothes on every visit though. So there's that. I doubt that these girls in question are wearing only one outfit every single time they work. I'll try to pay attention a little more and see if there's a correlation between the funky (pussy) smelling girls and the one/few outfit girls. Also, i wonder about the girls that change their outfit multiple times in one shift. I think if PLs are drunk enough, they might even get fooled into thinking the girl's a different dancer and dance with her again, lol...

One thing i did notice was that it seemed to be more common in the VHM/UHM clubs (and all the dancers affected were white, so maybe not 10% of all dancers at a particular club, but just a subset of the ones i danced with, i guess or recency bias), but lo and behold i went to one of the lesser mileage clubs and i saw a dancer that had the telltale marks on her thigh(s). What is interesting is that i hadn't been at that club in months, but the very next time i went i saw her again and she remembered me as i had gotten dances from her that visit. That was the only time i had danced with her before so she had a good memory. But when speaking with her, she said that she had taken a few weeks off. I asked if she had gone on vacation, but she instead said something about self-care. Which made me pause for a moment, but then she said she was definitely in a better place now or something like that and off we went to the chump station. She didn't seem as interactive in the dances and a bit more defensive than last time and this was when i noticed the scars. Maybe i wasn't paying attention the first time, but i didn't remember her having them the previous visit. I'm not going to deliberately look for this, but i'm definitely more aware of it now...

Not to be snarky, but a favorite is a favorite, simply because i like her more than the others. Usually this is some combination of looks (face and body), how she dances (mileage, contact, sensuality) and last personality (not overly or obviously hungry for money, asking for tips, miscounting dances, not bitchy to me). To me, this isn't a very high bar, at least as far as these qualities are concerned individually, but combining all of them to my liking is rather uncommon. Now ATF is a different story, but long story short, i liked her more than the other favorites, and to simplify, most of the same above criteria were involved, just more nuanced...

If you're only education is high school (and i'm not saying it is), then it's not necessarily an unnecessary question to ask which school you went to and if you graduated and when. Also there are many reasons an employer will ask how old you are, whether for legal reasons (if he thought you were a minor or or had to open or serve alcohol) or for providing benefits (retirement, insurance). You may not be legally required to answer certain questions, but you're chances of getting hired could easily decrease if you seem defensive of these questions which from my point of view are still largely harmless. Every one of those questions you would have to fill out on an application anyway (address, date of birth, education history), so he may have seen then already.

Definitely agree that lactating tits and lactating nipples are the hottest (visually). So naturally full, heavy and round and the nipples are as big and long as they'll ever be even when not turned on. Too bad most girls that are lactating don't like having their tits/nipples played with. Kind of a cruel cosmic joke. I wouldn't be against strippers to continue pumping so they don't lose those breasts/nipples after they stop nursing. Also a lot of the strippers with the nice "meaty" pussies don't like having them played with. Another cruel cosmic joke.

To me there is no comparison from a true "full contact" nude dance, preferably UHM, and a topless one and is often worth the extra $10 per dance IME . Sometimes you get tired of paying to play with just some butt cheeks and some tits. I usually cup a few asses for basically free in the front. Once you're in a relatively "private" setting and the thong comes off, it just seems so many more possibilities open up. Of course this depends if the girl is willing to play, but if she's GGG, then i think the dance is a lot more fun and all of your senses can come into play and more fully. I understand that in some topless dances, a girl might be willing to flash you or even put her thong to the side, essentially turning it into a nude dance, but that's more the exception than the rule.

Most of the higher end clubs have a mandatory coat check, although sometimes it's free. I think it's kind of like a dress code along with the no hats that some clubs enforce. Also i don't like leaving any personal items unintended, nor the idea of lugging a coat around to the chump station and back. But i never bring a coat into the club, and just leave it in the car along with any hat or gloves if i'm wearing them. Most of the clubs that require coat check also often require valet as well, so i don't have much of a walk to the club even if it's freezing or raining. Also i don't like the hassle of waiting around to retrieve a coat (and the usual expected tip for the pretty coat girl) when it's time to bounce...

Definitely boob job especially when you compare the before and after videos. Not a super bad boob job, but the side boob and the curvature from the front angle screams implants to me. Ugggh... she had very nice ones before. A former favorite of mine (not this youtuber) just ruined her nearly perfect tits (they were on the smaller side, but nothing wrong with that) and now they just look like any other fake porn actress' tits and feel even worse...

A website to post it on? The pink site comes to mind...

So many OTC experts... I would assume the price would be somewhat determined by location, quality of girls and the type of girl or as RD likes to say low or high volume. That is if the girl is basically an escort working at the SC, expect escort rates for OTC, which usually run about $200-$500 but you can get away with less as most escorts don't keep all of that rate. Or about how much an hour or so of VIP time for the girl's cut and her tip will cost. If the girl is a SB working at the SC, expect SB date prices. Again based on quality. Probably a similar rate, but SBs aren't as vigilant about time. If the girls is someone reluctant to the OTC at any price than you might eventually have to work out what she might take home after a shift to "convince" her. So again depending on the location, quality and popularity of the girl, probably a bit more than the other two examples.

For clubs i go to frequently, say every month or so, i don't expect to get any new or useful info. Most PLs don't write very specific or detailed and comprehensive reviews to begin with. Or things like exactly how much they tipped a bouncer or dancer for exactly what services. Or specific tips or tricks to maximize one's experience there. I wouldn't expect that in most reviews anyway, which are often a first review/visit of a particular club. But if say, Sinclair, were to review one of my favorite clubs, hell yeah, i would read it just based on his notes on every single dancer that worked that shift. I still might not learn anything new besides the name and description (and subjective rating) of a new or unfamiliar dancer but those are usually the only changes i see in a club in a relatively short period of time, i.e. between visits. Interestingly, the clubs in my area that i go to the most, tend to get more reviews than the ones that i don't frequent as much. So i actually end up reading more reviews of the clubs i already know what's going on with than the ones i wonder if anything has really changed. Hopefully changes for the better, but usually not. But for the most part, the local reviews are read/opened in hopes of entertainment value or even to have the club experience again vicariously. Usually, i don't even get that. That doesn't surprise me as many reviews are just written to the minimum standard to get VIP access. https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php5?id=60955

There's an actual job, and a high paying one, called political scientist? I always thought it was just a fluffy major. Before you know it, you'll hear about criminal justices (jurors?)...

I remember there was a discussion about this over a year ago, and before that and that... Anyway, i also remember this article that said that most men preferred women between 20-23... https://jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-are-20-21-22-and-23-a-data-dive-1731660984 And the discussion that the article was in: https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php5?id=52358

I remember in middle school, my best friend somehow was able to get his hands on a couple issues of Penthouse. One of them was the regular monthly publication from the early 90s (Amy Lynn Baxter was so yummy, even if i'm not a fan of implants, although hers didn't look bad), so it had just several very hot at the time (and honestly, i still think they're hot) pictorials and some articles. Of course, all i cared about was the articles... Not! The other publication was from a mid 80s collection/special edition called Girls Of Penthouse volume something, and it was only hot pictorials. Even better! Not every single model was Pet Of The Month material, but still very sexy. At the time, these magazines showed me everything i ever wanted to see about a woman's body and then some, unlike the one Playboy magazine my friend was also able to get his hands on. That one had coy poses, and airbrushed bushes to hide pussy lips and seemed less "natural" and authentic especially in that time period (early 90s; 80s and late 70s Playboy and even 00s Playboy was much better but still not great). Penthouse for the win. Of course i made it a point to borrow the Penthouses; didn't really give two shits about the Playboy... Now, i can't even imagine what it would have been like to have all the free porn in the world (and video not just images, although there's still plenty of that) available on a large (not stinking 15 inches, which was considered large at the time) high definition computer screen when i was going through puberty instead of having to go to the library to find stuff in the sexuality, sensual massage or women's health sections (thank you Dewey decimal system) and grabbing the picture books and moving to a more neutral section of the library. Or finding a bookstore that didn't wrap the magazines and doing the same thing, or in this case hiding the porno mags behind a gaming, sports or auto magazine. Yet that is the reality of millennials and later generations, at least with the wide availability of free and easy porn at an early age, not the hiding/sneaking of books and magazines. I guess there might be such a thing as being too spoiled too early...

If the Vikings win, the Bears will have to play them a third time the next week, but at home. Although home field only matters to the offense. At least if the Vikings win, Philadelphia's out and i think they're a lot more dangerous than Minnesota. So i kind of wish that Washington finds a way to beat Philadelphia so the Bears can still play Minnesota regardless of today's game. Having said all that, i think the Bears have as good of a chance as anyone in the league right now, because NO ONE is running away with it. Heck, New England just secured a bye and a home field divisional round and are almost certain to get back to the AFC Championship and from there it's a coin flip if they make it back to the Super Bowl again. The Chiefs aren't the same with out Hunt, the Rams have been playing like crap and are without Gurley, the Saints are mailing it in and just resting the next two weeks (i don't think that's a good idea). The Chargers, Cowboys, and Texans are all inconsistent. I think Seattle is also dangerous like a resurgent Philadelphia. But no team is anything near unbeatable. I guess we'll find out if the Bears are who we thought they were...

I kind of agree and disagree with chessmaster. Porn star meant something different 20+ years ago (the "good old years" of the sex industry) than now. The names were bigger. Now the industry is so saturated (including cams) and almost all of it can be seen at least partially, free. So there are no more stand out "legends". The "top" porn star on Pornhub seems to be changing every week, although there are a few girls that seem to always be close to the top. Today's stars, i guess. But at the same time, i don't think i've ever seen such a large number of beautiful "no names" in porn. Like a lot of those Eastern European based sites (not all hardcore) have some of the most beautiful women i've seen anywhere, and there are all these random very cute girl next door types in photo shoots/selfies and "self-made" videos. And your genetic freaks that have all the natural curves in the right places but otherwise slender bodies and at least pretty faces. I certainly don't see anything like that IRL and ever so rarely even in SCs.

@nicespice The reason a lot less men than women file for divorce is because they stand to lose half of their hard-earned assets and pay alimony on top of that. Also they are more likely to lose custody or get less custody of their kids. So divorce for them is often a worse option than staying in an unhappy (sexually unfulfilling or whatever) marriage. Although if a marriage has already gotten to that point, i guess a PL might not care so much about hiding SC funds (or feel untitled as Salty.Nutz stated) and if the wife finds out, the wife finds out. But who really knows... @SirLapdancealot Good to hear your alive and well. Didn't really mean to call you out like that. Or maybe i did. Hope it's still all good, either way...

^ The problem with that would it would basically be just a TUSCL poll so it would probably be on the rougher side of estimates. On further introspection, i could see that there could be a significant number of serious SC enthusiasts that are married. It's just a very large pool. But anecdotally, which doesn't really mean much statistically, when i visit clubs during the week/day shift which is where many of the regular repeat PLs visit, i don't feel that this is the group i see. They tend to skew considerably older (than one with young(er) kids would be) and seem to be "lonelier" or missing physical affection, although i could be projecting and i'm hardly accurate or scientific or even vigilant when it comes to PL watching. I'm pretty much in my own bizarro world...

I think i only really made two assumptions and i don't think they were too far off. Of course there's happily married and happily married. That is there are people that are committed to their marriage and there's no way they are leaving their wife but often it's because of their kids. Then there's the relative fewer guys who are still in love, even deeply so, with their partner. Or they say they are. Now that second category i would find out of place at the SC. I think he would feel guilty there. The first one, less so, but he probably wouldn't be comfortable there. Now there's a whole category of people that are "stuck" (again, maybe because of kids or no prenup) or "bored" and need this outlet. Again, it's easier/safer than cheating or "technically" not cheating. The second assumption was that this group weren't largely hardcore PLs. Now i didn't say it like that, but DC's previously discussion lent itself to the consideration of this large demographic. I can definitely believe 30-50% of customers are married. Certainly not all of the members in the bachelor/birthday parties are single. But again, based on logistics, i don't particularly see this group as contributing a similar percentage of SC revenues or the repeat business. So i think they would tend to fall more in the casual, one off or maybe even a few times a year at best. Now there could be conceivably be numerous TUSCLers that fall in this group (married, not casual PLs). I still think this site lends to selection bias. That is just because you really enjoy and frequent SCs and seemingly everyone else on this site does, it doesn't mean that such a large majority of the general population also does. At any rate, thanks for the answers/guesses. Especially you, nicespice. I didn't even consider couples that go to SCs, although IME those are less, even significantly less than 10% of customers. And also something that i and probably many dancers don't understand. That is why anyone would go to a SC with his GF/wife unless they were actually swingers or freaky...

@CJKent True, i'm not a regretful person in general and at the time, i did enjoy the experiences, probably just as much as i do now or close to it. But if i were to have those same experiences at the same places now, i would absolutely feel that i wasted my money and i would not continue on. I'm not just talking about 10+ years ago, or way pre-TUSCL, but even in the last few years when i thought i was much more "efficient" or less wasteful. @Papi That's why i made the analogy, but the thing is i'm not quite that picky in general in other areas. The main thing i noticed with regard to SCing is that for me there is no going back to an inferior experience. And certainly at the same price point, which is definitely another important criteria. Once i've reached a certain level of satisfaction with a particular club/dancer, i find that anything noticeable worse is largely unacceptable to me. But back to that price point, where i find that i can still make exceptions. For instance, if i spend $50 at a largely eye candy club (stage dominated) or $100 at a "value" dance ($10-20 compared to the usual $20-30) but moderate mileage club, i can accept that (kind of like your fast food and chain restaurant options). But even with that understanding, now i tend to feel i would have rather just left it than taken it. That i didn't really save potentially hundreds of dollars but felt more like i had wasted $50-100 despite having a fairly enjoyable time and definitely a different type of experience. And if i had spent even more at the respective places, i definitely would have felt more in the waste column. There's a lot more clarity of the situation for me right now.

To be fair the clubs in "Chicago" (Skybox and Club O) that you mentioned changed owners/management and essentially turned into "party" clubs. Skybox became the Boxxx and then Sky11(?). Club O closed and then reopened as a similar club. I think they were leasing their club to the Boxxx when that club was shut down after a fatal in-club shooting. After some point, i think that club (Boxxx) changed owners again but the same style and i think Club O continued to lease their club? And then a lot of the Club O girls (which was already becoming majority black) moved to Fantasy in Indiana and i think Ocean as well. Fantasy basically became Club O Indiana somehow. All stuff i've heard through the grapevine, but haven't, uh, verified, lol. I don't know what happened to Jimmy's. I just noticed it getting "blacker" over the years to the point that the vast majority (90+%) of the customers and dancers were black although the transition was already almost complete several years ago. Anyway, once a club goes black, it never goes back, lol...