Comments by Roadworrier (page 8)

Attention = money. I have no doubt Cosby was a Casanova, Hefner liked to hump her, and Weinstein was a waddstein (and Louis CK telegraphed his habits for years). But one or two gals coming out and the general PC attitude of mass media has created a whole new cottage industry, in which I suspect 90% of all adult males could probably be found guilty of something.

*job. (Jon is something else)

One gal who danced on me was a student in Richmond during the week and then organized social justice protests on weekends in DC. My sense is ambitious gals with kids need money just to get by even if they want to get an adult Jon or career. At least two MILFs who dance told me never worked while they were married, and apparently this was their option.

I am an iPhone X but on a bad day I identify as an Android.

If the club has to depend on 2-for-1's to liven the atmosphere up instead of offering reasonably priced dances to begin with, something is definitely wrong. The clever approach ("The System"?) is to get the gal you want to sit with you before the discount parade, and then she comes back to you for the 2-for-1 so you don't have to bat the lesser girls away like flies.

Given I've ended up with a few regulars in my club of choice in the past that became OTC or regulars in clubs I've visited elsewhere, I'll say "+1" on working on relationships with someone I know will put out. All that said, a lot of gals with great looks may not necessarily connect with me (and vice versa) beyond the first time, and I would say at least some may have to do with whether the club is laid back on girls talking to customers or whether they are expected to circulate, hustle, and generate revenue for the club. Deja Vu in N Hollywood, CA is a great example of a club where the whole business model is built around stage tipping and generating lots of relatively low-priced topless lap dances in timed booths. Girls hanging out with customers doesn't seem to fit into that business model, which makes the place somewhat clinical despite the quantity of full-contact dances one can get for their money. I would argue the legendary Mons Venus is actually similar except the lap dances are fully nude, and some of the gals have more charm/personality than others who seem to be reciting the usual scripted lines.

I like the SC experience for meeting gals upfront, but it's only a good "value" when you consider that most escort experiences in the US with GFE-worthy gals are fairly expensive (and in places like Nevada which have legal whorehouses, ridiculously overpriced). My experience in Montreal spoiled me (escorts there provide FS GFE for decent prices compared to your typical East Coast 30 min VIP room in a strip club, and the gal I selected was ridiculously cute even without a stripper outfit). It may well have ruined my appetite for strip clubs as well. Case in point - my wife was away this weekend and unusually, I chose to go to a concert at a "normal" club and enjoy live music instead of my usual SC adventures in the mid-Atlantic region, saving more than a bit of money and having no regrets. I would rather fly off to Canada (Toronto or Montreal) for cheap, get a hotel room with my frequent traveler points, and partake of two nights of escorts. We'll see when I fly out to the W Coast this week if I can maintain my self-control.

Captain Cream in Orange County. I think it changed its name and then vanished circa 2014 or so (I was there in '09 for the last time). Gals there were consistent 8+ and above, and some were very friendly, even if they did mostly lame air dances (mid-90s) and no extras (everything was out in the open).

A couple gals get wet here and there. I suspect the experienced ones can do it with or without a customer there.

I think we are about ready to become a society of cucks, and I don't even like the use of that word. I was at a conference a few weeks ago in Canada, and I know a few gals in our industry, long enough that we used to hug when we saw each other at various industry conferences. Not unusual. Never thought of it as sexual (OK, a couple of the sales gals have fantastic racks and would jut it out ever so slightly when I came by in the old days.) Well, now the gals were quickly looking around when we saw each other and then it was a handshake. I realize Canada is even a little more PC than the U.S., but it definitely seemed awkward. I am watching as the the battle zones between man and woman are being drawn by the media and SJW's. Yes, SECULAR SHARIA law is on its way. I have no other way to describe it. I think we may be down to paid encounters in the future. (Admittedly, I consider marriage these days to be not much different than a "paid encounter", except possibly with kids as a byproduct in addition to alimony, child support, etc. that seems to occur 50% of the time).

Strippers strip for money. but all women fuck for money, whether it's OTC, escorts, hookers, or domestic partners. Think about it the next time your wife / girlfriend asks for an allowance, that mink coat, that car, that outfit, or that divorce or palimony.

Drinking, drugs and hot pussy will alter many gals' orientations.

I didn't have kids, a lot of issues with the wife (eating disorder, psych issues) for many years. Either way I would not sterilize at 25. You may have regrets at 30 or 35. Children are always the future, if we Americans don't have kids, others will and pretty soon no one will be speaking English.

Array, thanks for ruining my Sunday morning breakfast. :)

Lesson learned here. If you plan to murder your wife, you're better off not marrying her to begin with. No one dies, you don't go to prison, more money to spend on strippers. Everyone wins.

That will last about 10 minutes in most clubs. The girls will figure you out and not come by if you keep refusing the opportunity for feeding them money. They'll come and sit with me instead. LOL

She may have kids and no babysitter.

The only OTC that works for me is with someone that you are relatively familiar with. Even with a perfectly safe gal (been lucky that way I guess), keep in mind what she does for a living and she has certain types of needs and wants and they generally all cost money. (Even if it isn't drugs. I've had a gal wanting me to buy her high-end webcam equipment, massage tables, etc. I've avoided her since.)

Married, fairly loveless environment due to wife needing to be on antidepressants and under pain mhmt as well as having a life long eating disorder. Travel and other periodic opportunities offer me a chance to escape.

Never put a bar tab on a credit card in a club that makes you buy "dancer drinks".

Took me years to get an "extra" after mostly clubbing in Southern California and SFO in the 90s, plus the occasional Florida trip. I would get phone numbers and OTC offers from the more MILF-like dancers whenever I went to certain divey clubs in the Ft Lauderdale area, but never took the gals up on those. But by 2001, I was spending much of my time in Dubai and for less than the price of a 30 min VIP room dance today (sometimes way less), you could go to a hotel bar or a club like Cyclone and take home a lovely Russian gal for the evening provided you were staying in a girl-friendly hotel or apartment building. I probably had at least 40-45 encounters over a 5 year period (being in Dubai about 35 times, a week each on average, during that period). Pretty much anything goes. Now it's more expensive, there are fewer P4P-friendly bars to find the girls, and the Russian gals are now supplanted by gals from Africa, China, perhaps someplace like Kyrgyztan, and the Philippines. So settling for strip clubs after many years of traveling to the Vegas of the Muslim world required a bit of adjustment. Eventually I got a BBBJ at an invitation-only club in NY (very expensive gals) and similar, more relaxed, and more fun stimulation for my little friend on a sofa "at the top of the spiral stairs" in an otherwise "meh" club in Houston. Which explained the Kleenex boxes on every table in that desolate area of the club. ;) For now OTC with my favorite stripper is about the best way to have a more Dubai-like experience, but it's something I didn't do until this summer for the first time.

Hell, all you guys are getting away cheap. Most Mid-Atlantic clubs from Baltimore south to Raleigh have gone to what seems to be a $10/minute scale, with one dance (song cut at three minutes) being $30 (topless or pasties), with occasional 2-for-1's with lap dance police on patrol. 30 min in a VIP room (again topless) now is up around $300. Sacramento seems to be the last reasonable place, with $20 or $30 laps getting you around 5 minutes of action, the girl with no top and allowing you to sample a bit of her other treasure as well. Interestingly the 2 for $60 in SFO got me 10 minutes of action but it's not topless.

I went last night. My focus is usually on one dancer which keeps things somewhat under control. Once every couple weeks is about all my budget can take, especially if I'm going to be traveling around and wanting to sample clubs wherever I'm traveling.

She'll probably prefer you buying her more dances. :)

What do Diana or Cristal look like?