Comments by a21985 (page 5)

They can try all they want. I see stages dances as just an audition for the dancer that I want to bring to the VIP. If there are a lot of people at the rail, I don't hangout at the rail trying to compete with those leeches, I simply walk over, tip the dancer a 20 and go back to my seat. It's the only stage tip I'll do during a SC visit. The other guys tipping ones become invisible to the dancer and she eventually walks past them to me when she's done. I can't recall a time that didn't work.

@nina - then what was your biggest offer from a PL for whatever PL related thing that you accepted?

Haha @cashman. It's not gay anyways, its just business. Hell, I'd put out for a Camaro too.

It's subjective. They had a good time and got what they were looking for at a reasonable cost. For me, that would be busting a nut, but I've got to imagine that for others (whether it be personal preference or due to regional limitations of extras) that's not every reviewers viewpoint.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with @ricky on this. If you need to cut back this much on basics needed for a quality life just to indulge yourself here, its not worth it. It's unhealthy and clearly you could use the money better somewhere else. It literally hurts me to see someone go to these extremes for this, like you're making your life revolve around doing this. This is an expensive hobby, and even a lot of us who have extra money to frivalously spend on this without cutting back elsewhere in life consider it a rock bottom priority for where our money goes.

I have a 6-9 month attention span for this hobby. After that amount of time, it wears me out and bores me to the point I need to take a break for at least a few months. I've had a few dissapearing acts on this board because of it. It was really bad a couple years ago when I had an ATF, which made things so monotonous to the point I had to take a 6 month break before I wanted back in on the fun. Anyways, bottom line I guess is that for some people, this is a taxing hobby that just doesn't work year round. Don't keep doing it if you're not having fun anymore. It's too expensive for that shit. Go take a break. Maybe in a few months you'll get an itch to come back and you'll return with a passion. That's what I do and it keeps it fun.

"Rationalize it to yourself all you want, but it is equally wrong. In both cases it results in the assumption of guilt before being proven innocent, and it isn't fair to the individual. I know, life isn't fair." @flag - its hard to explain if you've never been the victim of racism, or maybe I should say whether or not you have to even be concerned thats what the person's motovation is. I'm serious when I say it's something I have had to be aware of because it determines my reaction (something that has been a life or death decision for some people of color, fortunately not for me). If someone is treating me the way they are due to prejudice feelings towards me rather than based on my actual actions, then I know they don't play by the rules, my reaction could make things go south. That's a reality I wish more people could understand, and when we talk about "privilege", the privilege to live your life without have to measure your reaction by whether you believe someone has bigotted motivations is part of what we're talking about. This isn't to say I'm out there screaming "racism" as soon as something bad happens to me or some other minority, but it does mean I adjust my reaction accordingly until I get a better understanding of the full story. So no, it's not equally wrong, it's a reality that black people have had to live with for survival reasons against blatant bigots and those who are unwittingly prejudiced that has been inherited down over generations. Please don't try to equate racism with a defense mechanism against it.

For ITC, had a solid 8 ask for just the cost of the dances after FS. So I think it was 5 dances at 25 a pop, $125. Alas, I have morals deep down inside somewhere and had a great time, so I unsolicitedly tipped her an additional $100 for good measure. So with a couple drinks and valet included, about $250. For OTC, I did meet once with old ATF who in a one time random fit of horniness booty called me and all she asked for was that I bring a pack of Djarum blacks for her. So that was like 20 bucks since I bought her a couple packs and made it technically not free. She did make it crystal clear to never expect this again and I've never had anything like that happen before or again with her or anyone else. Pure fluke so it barely counts.

2 is my record for different women in 24 hrs, and I've done it multiple times. For most number of times in a single day with one woman is 9 when me and my now wife decided to put a day aside just to see how many times we could handle.

@warrior15, if its a picture you found online, then you just need to post the full url where you found it. If it's your own picture, you need to upload it to an image hosting site (like imgur.com) and then post the link to the upload.

18, and it was my first (but not the last time) I engaged in an epic battle with whiskey dick. The girl was a trooper toughing it out not only with my inexperience, but also sitting tight while I insisted I get mine. I'm pretty sure it took over an hour for me to pop.

When you're a man of color, you have this unfortunate 6th sense where you just know when the underlying reason for something happening to you is about race. I'm not even joking about that, though I wish I was. It's a survival mechanism to help you decide whether to fight back, or put your head down and "yes sir" and "no ma'am" your way out of a situation. It's an reality of being black/a minority in America. Not saying people realize their doing it, but their unconditional apprehensiveness of black people for whatever reason leads to more bullshit "misunderstandings" like this.

15, freshman year of high school. Had a girlfriend who was too hot for me and we gave it go one day after school as my mom was never home until later in the evening. We didn't last long afterwards. Word got out and she became very popular with the other boys who wanted a ride and boy did she oblige them from the stories I heard. The hate from the other girls and lust from the other boys literally drove her crazy a year or so later and she left school. Me on the hand, it took until towards the end of my senior year of high school to get a 2nd shot at it. Pretty rough on a teenager to start high school with a bang just to go through a long cold streak after. Definitely explains some of the reasons why I went girl crazy in college and have this particular hobby now.

Only when I'm doing something social with a larger group of friends like a bachelor party. And even then, I'm playing dumb like I know nothing about strip clubs and at most getting a couple innocent dances and nothing more. Pretty much just drinking with a view. I keep my hobby relegated to weekday early afternoons: less competition, less managerial supervision, lower costs, and more willing dancers.

@warrior - LaBare? Nah, I don't think guys have a big enough ass for Papi's liking.

300. I was desperate but was not desperate enough to pay for what this dancer with GPS was trying to get for FS. Not one of my prouder moments.

Flight Club is essentially Penthouse Jr. now. Its owned by the same people I believe and many of the Penthouse dancers, managers, etc...are working at FC in the meantime. It's really breathed new life into FC to be honest.

Both maybe, or neither? I dunno. The level of brag is in the eye of the beholder.

You should sue @mack. Could you imagine how many lot lizards you could get with even just a $100 settlement?

That's why I simply like to cum in the stripper's mouth instead of my own pants like a horny 12 year old. No muss no fuss when she willingly cleans it up for you.

I personally find gifts to strippers extremely tacky and the ultimate PL move. My old ATF used to talk to me about her regulars who gave her gifts and made fun of them for it (including one who came in to the club once to give her one while I was there and he left empty handed once he realized she wasn't ditching me for him despite the expensive pair of shoes he gave her). This only solidified my opinion on the matter. I'm not sure if a sex toy is more PL than the standard gifts or not, but it sounds like it worked out quite well for you in this case, so I guess all I can say is very well done! Hopefully its the gift that keeps on giving...

Flight Club, Bogarts, Silver Criket and HVIII are all within like at most 5 minutes away from each other, and Landing Strip is like only 10-15 minutes away from that group. So those are safe bets if you want to club hop without too much travel. As for costs, most places will have a $7 or $8 valet, 9ish dollar drinks, 20 to 30 per dance (most detroit clubs do per dance in the VIP, rather than do blocks of time), and if you're a man who partakes in the finer things in life that a Detroit club has to offer, you should expect your wallet to feel 200 to 300 bucks lighter at the end. More than that and you're negotiating probably needs work or you're dealing with someone who has GPS.

Someone should let Detroit in on that if that's what's happening because those girls haven't gotten the memo. I will say though that I had been batting 100% at my primary club for the past 2 years over the course of a couple dozen straight visits. Unfortunately last month was the first time there since early 2016 that I struck out. So maybe that the tide is shifting. Fortunately, all I had to do was drive a few minutes over to next club nearby to get the extras I was looking for.

@tx - I think mamisan's cousin's buffet will go first before her parlor according to the issues she says they have with @juice.

@nina - Yeah Eleanor is routinely considered the best and rightfully so. But as I mentioned above, not sure how our unofficial first female president, Edith Wilson, doesn't get the love she deserves here.