Comments by anonlvone (page 8)

@OWG - Sometimes the BS on this board is so thick I wish I could start awarding trowels to the worst offenders on a 1 to 5 scale. Imagine the outcry if someone said "blacks have a different mindset..." This idea that strippers are uniquely deceitful, while everyone else is a paragon of virtue is such a stinking pile of cow manure. Here's a thought: "How many Cabinet members in the Obama administration did *not* deserve to be prosecuted?" Here's another thought: "If you look down on women who have sex for money, then why are you paying dancers to have sex with you OTC?" Or if you don't do OTC, then answer this: "If a stripper is forever defined by her decision to take off her clothes and grind on a guy's lap, then why aren't you defined by your decision to walk into a men's club and pay women to take off their clothes and grind on your lap?" Contradiction much? For every pathetic loser who thinks "once a stripper always a stripper," there's a stripper thinking "once a pathetic loser always a pathetic loser." Speaking for myself, I would never tell you that you can never believe anything a dancer says. What I have said, repeatedly, is that you can't pay a stripper for dances and expect her to tell you the truth about your relationship. By paying her for dances, you are paying her for affection - regardless of whether she feels affectionate towards you or not. And you cannot, on the one hand, deliberately and knowingly pay someone to lie to you, and on the other hand, expect them to tell you the truth. It's just not gonna happen. If a dancer has any degree of affection or respect for you, she won't keep taking your money. Women generally become dancers for money. I think we can all agree on that. So if a dancer ever came to me with the offer that your dancer made to you, "I have been offered the choice of maintaining the current relationship or to see other girls (and satisfy the primal urges) ITC and get together with her OTC," I would immediately stop getting dances from her, because the only way I can interpret that statement is that she doesn't feel comfortable lying to you anymore. Yes, you can and you have chosen to continue the current relationship as is, but I feel you're shooting yourself in the foot by doing so, and the longer it goes on the less respect she'll have for you. The thing about relationships is that they're always changing. Relationships are organic, if they're not growing then they're dying, but one thing they don't ever do is stay the same. So if you ever do have a "relationship" that never changes, that's a dead giveaway it's not really a relationship - it's a business arrangement, or a legal obligation, or perhaps some mutually beneficial transaction - but it's not a relationship.

There's some great comments here. Personally though if the only reason I was tipping a girl ITC was for her time, I would stop taking up her time ITC. A while back I knew a dancer who sounds like yours. Very restrained ITC and was offering OTC dates as a sweetener. Then I met the dancer who is now my best friend. We took things OTC almost immediately. But what may interest you is that several times she would let me know that she would be working at a certain club and we would meet there and i never had to pay her anything. Contrast that with the other girl once the money started to dry up with the first girl her attitude changed dramatically. As I like to say you can't buy affection.

wow are you misinformed. you have no idea how often those "lovely naked women" are brawling in the dressing room while you're chilling at the stage.

Never fear SJG, I'm certain the foul mouthed child who can't think of any response other than insults is directing his fire at me.

Clinton saw Trump as her weakest potential opponent. Of course she was never the sharpest tool in the shed. Something you two have in common.

No 25, you're fucking ignorant. The Clinton's plan to run Trump as a poison pill candidate was publicly revealed by WikiLeaks. It was part of the DNC email release that got Seth Rich murdered.

The Clintons planned to build up Trump as a poison pill candidate, thinking he could never win in a general election. Unfortunately for them Trump was one step ahead. My explanation is that he created a certain public image and cultivated certain relationships so that he wouldn't have an untimely accident like JFK Jr and live long enough to run for the presidency with the initial blessings of the Clintons and the powers that be.

@OWG - have you considered taking her up on that offer? Not suggesting you start getting dances from other girls, just that you take your relationship strictly OTC.

Thanks for demonstrating what happens when you try to communicate downwards across 20+ IQ points. Might as well be talking to another species.

John Boehner was forced out b/c he was a RINO. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan was his hand chosen successor. While Trump was running for office, Paul Ryan was one of the faggot traitors who refused to support him, citing the fake Access Hollywood controversy. He's been fighting Trump's agenda since he took office, and rumors are he is leaving now b/c he knows he's going to be implicated in the fake Russian Collusion narrative. A RINO is self-explanatory. Republican in Name Only. What part of that do you not understand? Same thing with Democrats. There are tons of Democrats in Name Only. I suspect Trump is actually pretty liberal in a lot of ways. He was very close to John F Kennedy Jr, who conveniently died just before Hillary Clinton chose to run for the New York Senate seat. Regardless of whether he is liberal or conservative, one thing I can say for certain is that he's an American, which is more than I can say for all the traitors in office who are pretending to be Republicans, Democrats, conservatives or liberals, but in actuality are trying to destroy this country from within. The US Gov't under Obamination protected Hillary Clinton during her presidential campaign. She was under investigation by the FBI and Comey lied about this while he sabotaged the investigation. She should be rotting in prison for deliberately transmitting classified info on non-secure servers which resulted in several nations states and at least one private hacker breaching her server. Comey went on television and actually documented the numerous ways in which she lied about this issue and broke the law just before announcing that he was declining to prosecute, which was contrary to all law and not his decision to make. This is just the tip of the iceberg of all the crimes she's committed which make her unfit to be President. She corrupted the DNC and illegally took control of its activities during the presidential election, stealing the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders. During the presidential campaign, the entire mainstream media continuously covered up not only her crimes, but also her ill health, while endlessly declaring that Trump could never be elected and attacking him 24/7, which they continued to do through his inauguration and every day of his presidency since. Wikileaks has documented numerous contacts and endless collusion between the Clinton campaign and the mainstream media. She was given campaign questions in advance of debates, while her staff issued talking points to the media and coordinated with them on press releases. The mainstream media also covered up the lack of support for Clinton, which Donna Brazile wrote about in her book, while endlessly producing fake polls such as the one claiming that she had a 98.9% chance of winning the presidency on the eve of the election. Hillary Clinton, in coordination with the DNC, paid for and produced the fake dirty dossier which was later used as justification by the Obama government to illegally surveille the Trump campaign, after the FISA court rejected their first request. After Trump's election, this became the basis for the entire fake Russian Collusion narrative which has been advanced by traitors within the DOJ and the FBI and the State Dept and of course the Democratic party, who have been working relentlessly and illegally to overthrow the duly elected representative of the American people while simultaneously ignoring and covering up the very real and very treasonous crimes of Hillary Clinton, such as selling one fifth of America's Uranium supply to Russia, (the Uranium One scandal). My own feeling is that Trump was asked to run for the presidency after JFK Jr was murdered. Had he lived he would have become president instead of Trump. Trump was opposed by the DNC, the RNC, both the Bush and Clinton crime families, as well as multiple intelligence and federal agencies under the very corrupt government of Obamination (CIA, DOJ, FBI, State, etc). Not bad for an incompetent buffoon who's never held political office previously and is acting completely alone.

quality over quantity. F. Find a DS and spend whatever it takes to have her.

I feel like a kid on Christmas morning. The Obamacare individual mandate is going the way of the dodo bird. Paul "the RINO" Ryan is leaving the Senate. Now if Jeff Sessions would only appoint a special prosecutor to put Hillary in prison. And Trump is not and never has been alone. The stupidity of the average person is unbelievable to think he won the presidency alone against so many illegal and unfair tactics used against him.

My apologies if I misunderstood but I didn't see any indication you've stopped the VIP visits.

@OWG - the thing that bothers me about your story is that you're still paying for VIP. In my experience dancers with strict boundaries in VIP will often offer OTC dates to good customers. If you stop seeing her in the club and the OTC friendship continues then I would view things differently

"the individual mandate is needed to keep healthy people in the exchanges..." funny, I thought we had a democratic government and a capitalist economy, you can shill for communism if you wish, but real americans have resisted the Obamacare mandate since the day it became law, and we won't stop until it's been repealed.

healthy people aren't staying in the exchanges, which is why they are all in death spirals. and feel free to estimate the number of Americans who either had their insurance policies cancelled outright, or who saw their premiums skyrocket to unsustainable levels.

Every single person who initially voted for the Obamacare tax penalty, or who has fought to keep it, should be lined up against a wall and shot.

I have no idea what "the Desire page of the other site" means. One thing about dating strippers is that they objectify themselves. See Bj99's comments in this thread to see what I mean. It's hard to date someone who has no idea who she is, because she's constantly trying to turn herself into what she thinks you in particular want, or what men in general want, and not just any men, but strip club patrons at that. They spend so much time pretending to be something they're not they lose touch with themselves - assuming they ever knew who they were to begin with. The problem gets even worse when sex comes into play. I've never said don't give money to a dancer if you want to date her, although I can understand why a dancer might interpret things that way. What I have said is, don't get dances from her. The reason being, the more you pay her for dances, the more motivated she is to disconnect from her feelings and pretend she likes you, so it becomes increasingly difficult for you (or her) to determine what's really going on. There are always exceptions yeah. I once met a dancer in a club, took her to VIP and then immediately left the club with her, but the visit to VIP wasn't about the money, it was about seeing how we responded to one another. After that one time she never danced for me again.

@Doces300 - you're either making all this up, or you have bricks in your head. your wife is behaving strangely, and all you're doing is watching your investments? really? isn't there some saying about latching the barn door after the horse has bolted? if you're really this dense IRL then your OTC behavior explains itself.

This has to be a troll post. Dancers and weed go together like ice cream and hot fudge.

@Ch3ll - What you're describing sounds like what someone else recently suggested to me. In your case I would say the girl is not a prostitute, because in her mind she is not thinking in terms of x for y. It's more like the money is to tempt her into spending time with you, like some guys might offer theater or concert tickets, and then after spending time with you she discovers she actually enjoys your company and things progress from there. The interesting thing is what happens when she does start to make the connection. From reading the posts of certain guys, it seems usually the girl gets to the point where she starts thinking, "Hey, I enjoy getting paid for this," which technically is prostitution, but also no different than what many civilians do to get ahead at work or to get material benefits from boyfriends. In those latter cases I would consider them prostitutes too, although the law would disagree with me. The point is you're being compensated for sex, not the form of the compensation. An important qualifier though, is that the girl is being selective and has free will, which is why I said technically this might be prostitution. The law would argue that it is, but I am not so sure. As I said before, the important thing to me is that the girl is being compensated for sex, not the form of the compensation. There's a lot of hypocrisy in our laws regarding sex. The other alternative, is that once the girl starts to realize that she enjoys your company, she stops taking your money. On the rare occasions I've compensated a girl for her time OTC this is what has happened, but that just speaks to the types of girls I choose to begin with. It takes more than just a pretty face or T&A for me to consider spending time with a dancer OTC.

I'm still going to go with a counselor. Assuming your story is true, no one does that type of fucked up shit w/o having serious underlying issues with the marriage. You owe it to yourself to find out why you're on a self-destruct mission.

rockstar, is it possible this is an "either/or" instead of "and"? $300 is a bit much for tip out fees. on the other hand if she can pocket $300 clear with you she might decide to forgo a Sunday shift at her club. whereas if you decline she still has time to make it to work on time. the other thing I'm wondering, is if she has a significant other, so she has to worry about explaining where she is, which is why meeting you just before her usual work shift might be a necessity

@Bj99 - what I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall of some PL's favorite club, or just some NSA admin with more privileges than sense. i'd release my own version of "wikileaks" and watch some of the posers on this board just curl up and die

My comments in this thread were directed at the men who pay for sex, not the women who sell sex. And it's a measure of the pathetic levels of self-delusion on this board that so many people want to pretend otherwise. The point of the thread is self-delusion, not the labels people use for things. And to be even clearer my comments are primarily directed at the fools on this board who don't realize their posts scream ignorance. Do yourselves a favor and go find some civilians to date, instead of going to clubs, or worse lying about the experiences you don't have with women. Your ignorance smells like shit.