Comments by SquareCastle (page 6)

^ Wow, that was prolific. Never knew negotiating with a 10 was tantamount to buying a used playstation. “Hey beautiful, I know you just quoted me 500 bucks but how about 120 bucks and a 5 dollar scratcher instead?” . Yeah, that might work with all the Gorditas at Sam’s Hofbrau but that’ll go over like a lead balloon at at place like 4play . If you’re consistently getting quality service from quality dancers playing the shell game then you should do a TED talk on the art of negotiating.

That’s your agreement and if that’s what makes you happy, who am I to knock it. Kudos. I’m not big on semantics and don’t treat them as “whores”, although that’s an easy implication to make with anything transactional in this type of sub culture. I can’t help the way they feel about themselves as they obviously deal with a wide range of people from all walks of life. I can only control me, my money and the level of service I’m accustomed to as a result. If someones paying 300 bucks for a back rub and a dancer blowing in their ears, and their happiness is achieved, everyone else’s opinion is a moot issue.

Thank you sir. I sure am. Have been for quite some time. It’s even better when you flat rate them and time/boundaries don’t exist anymore.

@25 - I’m not a paralysis of analysis guy with all due respect, I just know the difference through experience. A willing buyer and a willing seller doesn’t exactly mean fulfillment. It just means you came to an agreement and that’s it. Willingness does mean jack. Great service means more to me than her willingness to say yes. I want both not just a yes.

“You get what you pay for” applies to everything from cars to food. Try driving a Honda Civic after you drive a Porsche 911 S and that saying will take new meaning. If the next Cindy Crawford is gladly taking your 200 dollar tips while falling in love with you at the same time, then you just got more game than the rest of us. More power to you.

^ While I do agree that no two people pay the same price, just like no two people get the same type of mileage, I do believe that price often dictates the level of service you receive in this business. And that applies to inside the club as well. A high quality dancer capitulating to a lower price doesn’t mean you’ve won either, it only means you’ll get the type of service that you’re willing to pay for. The only difference is she won’t tell you that. A 100 dollar tip warrants 100 dollar mileage, and so on and so forth. What she provides for the guy who consistently pays more money is significantly different than the service she gives to someone who tips less. Obviously, she cares more about retaining the guy who spends more over guy who always negotiates to the lower end of the spectrum. In that moment, she may agree to the lower price but in her head she’ll get you somewhere on the back end. Whether it’s through truncating your time together or providing a lackluster return. It’s like going to a 5 dollar blackjack table - you might think you have a better chance of winning but you still lose more money in the long run. Especially time wise and nobody wins long term playing 5 bucks a hand. Same premise applies here.

Just because a dancer quotes a “high price” for anything doesn’t necessarily mean that’s a polite way of saying no. In fact, that’s her way of letting you know that A) other PLs have indeed paid that price before and B) the price is fairly commensurate with how much she makes inside the club on average. I’ve known really good looking, high mileage dancers who can pull in 3k plus (not including tips) on any given day so your 200-1400 dollar tip is inconsequential. Too much negotiation and scoffing only paints you as cheap and unsophisticated. If you don’t like her price, just say no and move on to a dancer that provides you with services conducive to your budget.

With any COI club, you get offered higher mileage by lower quality dancers. I.E dancers with poor hygiene habits and others who can’t/don’t invest in their general upkeep (going to the gym, hair, nails etc). So tipping expectations should be moderate to say the least at COI. With perhaps the exception of SR there, which is almost always more miss than hit. Frankly, a hot woman should warrant a better tip. Trust me when I say that 10s don’t really need your money - especially your 150-200 bucks which will barely get you a hot towel on their spa days. Tip and vet accordingly and great things will happen. Cheap doesn’t work with top flight dancers/pros.

You should’ve responded with “I’m half Kenyan and half Syrian”, that way you could’ve played the cultural appropriation game together.

Meh, it’s just part of the finesse game . Granted, she may not kiss EVERYONE but you ain’t the only one she’s kissing. Also a way of testing of your undercover. So there’s your answer if she kisses once (LFK,DFK) but never again.

Trust me when I say don’t flatter yourself. She probably wasn’t attracted to you at all but was thinking of somebody else entirely when she was giving you a lap dance, which a lot of dancers do. Some can even mentally leave their body, and disassociate themself from the experience itself. Had a dancer friend of mine tell me once that she goes to her happy place when she has to give guys she’s not attracted to dances. That happy place being a man she’s attracted to.

Forget about this imaginary endeavor and your endeavor at being funny as well. Instead, why don’t you try removing yourself from mommy’s basement and pick up a new hobby, like getting a part time job so you can stop posting asinine discussion threads.

Trolls galore on this site now. Inflation must be forcing them to resort to hibernating in mommy’s basement and playing World of Warcraft/ trolling on obscure SC review sites. Thank you oh blessed founder for the mute button.

Who gives a flying F……

I’ve been muting a heck of a lot of people lately. Dang! I can now add this clown to the list.

^ um, you are aware VPNs and static IP addresses can still be traced - right???

Try sending an audio text where you are crooning vivaciously to Notorious BIG’s “one more chance”.

I agree, this place has hit the skids and have the same tired dancers they’ve always had. Do they even hire new talent? Very depressing club. There are some okay looking dancers but nobody super hot - which is what this place used to pride itself on.

You have the right attitude and your SC logic when it comes not spending frivolously is healthy overall. The trolls who are retorting with snide remarks and ignorant comments more than likely don’t spend any money at SCs anyways. And I know they don’t spend serious money, which accounts for all the push back and static they get from dancers in general. Hence their incessant whining about why dancers don’t talk to them and always pass them by - etc. I for one don’t like low hanging fruit on a consistent basis and would rather splurge on a 9 or a 10. Which are rare commodities these days in any club you go to. If I don’t like what I see, I’m out and chalk the cover charge up as a minor loss and put the cash back in the sock drawer. My standards are high, and that usually equates to a higher fee which is worth it for me because I’m there for sheer entertainment and not for validation/companionship/or anything else. Keep doing your thing.

The founder probably runs this site out the back of a used bookstore somewhere in Berkeley, CA (at least that’s how I picture him). Give him a break and some time. He’ll come through - but he definitely matches to the beat of his own drum.

Some of these guys need to take a remedial writing class (won’t name names) as their level of education definitely shows in their posts. I don’t expect them to be James Joyce, but at least write an intelligible paragraph that’s easy to read and gets your point across. Truncate your reviews - and don’t ramble! Who’s desert scrub?

Ya, the only place worse than this place (as far as atmosphere), is Paradise in Industry which is super depressing. The girls here are definitely living dance to dance (paycheck to paycheck). You could find classier joints in the Favelas of Brazil.

People have been asking in my inbox who the one was that wanted a tip just for touching. Name was Sierra I believe so beware.

@riskA and that’s the way it should be. Anybody who actually wants a stripper to overlap into their personal life is a complete knucklehead anyways.

Men need to stop gossiping about other men. Sometimes these discussions feel like they are being moderated by mean, 18 year old girls. Give the man a break and let him write his reviews.