Comments by 501traveler (page 7)

I think Jaguars is more of a "make it rain" type night club feel. Haven't been there in a while and don't see too many good reviews on it.

Add Sugar 44 to your list. Its right down the road from Bourbon St and I've always had a good time there at night.

Depends. If she was already a stripper then there is no letting her strip and you need to be able to deal with it. She is already set in her ways. If we were together and she decided to become a stripper, then I would have an issue. Girls change when they start stripping either due to all the attention, the cash or the creeps she has ro deal with.

^^^ What nicespice said

Its nice to see that when Trap went quiet, Icey was there to pick up the mantel an run with "only a few dancer and right wingers don't like the new law". Of course the dancers are all lying and ignore the actual payout slips posted online by dancers. Ignore that dancers are organizing to fight this. When others post about actual conversations with dancers and a mini exodus, then start calling people names. There is no arguing with a troll. Just put them on ignore.

I think there was a prior discussion topic about something along the same lines. Many clubs do post their nightly roll either on their websites, on instagram or on twitter. It would be great if founder could add a link on the clubs home page to that. But the other option would be for PLs to post in the clubs comments if the club posts their roll call and how to find it.

What if you posted who approved the review when of it gets posted. We all could see who is approving some of these crap reviews.

Vodka / soda usually. For non alcohol nude clubs - bottled water

Looks like strippers in CA are trying to organize and fight back against the new employee status law. Check out STRIPPERCHOICE.COM Saw a posting on twitter that they plan to rally at the capital to protest on Jan 18th. Geuss dancers are not so ExTATIC about the changes. Of course this rally must be something instigated and lead by someone with a right wing agenda

I agree with Subra, it's good to hear from some actual strippers. It would be nice if some of dancers on this site who work in CA (or have left due to the changes) gave us their views. Not some troll. There maybe a few that like the new arrangement, but I think most do not.

Agree with TFP. The only reason I haven't put Icey Trap Loco on ignore is the entertainment value. But that is starting to wear off.

Dancers did pay taxes before, but would self report what they made at the end of the year when filing their taxes. They were taking home all their money in cash each night. The issue now is any money they make from dances is paid and taxed on their checks. Then the club is also taking a percentage of that depending on the shift, being on schedule, etc. They still get to take home the cash from tips each night, but have to report their tips to the club. That is also shown their checks as income, so it is also taxed. Bottom line is they have less take home pay. Yes if they do their taxes they will get a big refund, but most dancers aren't used to that and liked working when they needed or wanted to. They are not used to budgeting their money and making it last based on paydays. So most dancers in CA cannot be "ExTATIC" about that. The ones that are making good money are the dancers who are willing to do more ITC stuff for heavy tips when doing VIP or private dances. The dancers in OR have seen what is going on in CA and have organized. They were able stop a bill that was being discussed by lawmakers about making dancers employees in that state.

I guess it depends how you define best. If you want more of a party scene, then maybe so. If you want an actual strip club, then no. I will choose to spend my money elsewhere. There are better clubs in the Sac area for quality and number of dancers.

Happy birthday, shadowcat

Dont waste your time with Club Fantasy. Its trying to be knock off VLive type after hours party spot. Overpriced and only open Wed thru Sat. Heard they are even charging for parking in now.

I'm not here to minimize anyones efforts and I'm definately not right wing. I have no agenda besides having a good time when I visit strip clubs. Like I said, I think most dancers want the protections but didn't realize all the stuff that comes with being an actual employee. The dancers I know are making less money and they are having to hustle more to try and get more tips. The only ones making more were the ones who werent making any money in the first place and couldnt afford their house fee or payouts. They probably shouldnt have decided to be dancers in the first place. The best option would have been if a dancer could choose to be an employee or an independent contractor in a club. Employees have all the rules and limits on shifts, but are paid and hourly wage and keep their tips. Independent contractors pay a house fee and keep what they make in dances and tips. Bet more dancers would opt not to be employees or would switch over once they see the what independents are making. But the goverment or "do gooders" would never let that happen, because they need to "protect" the dancers.

Icey, you are mistaken. While most dancers do want employee protections, they dont want this. All the rules, limited days / shifts, paperwork and taxes. It does have them to making less money. There is no bs or right wing sentiments in the comments. It is reality of what dancers are telling their customers and based on one of the employee contract I have seen. If it wasn't true why are dancers in CA trying to or meet up and organize thru social media to fight this? Why are others just leaving CA? By the way, it is not the same as waitresses. People are expected to and the majority of customers do tip them. Alot a of strip club patrons don't tip the dancers and just sit there for a free thinking that because they paid a cover, they dont need to tip or are too cheap to tip a dollar.

There are less girls working and now clubs will send girls home if it's slow and they are not selling dances and making the club money. Clubs now are looking at saving payroll on these slow nights.

Yes I read them. I mostly club when traveling for work, so it lets me know of any changes or dancers who may have switched clubs if do decide to hit a local club while home.

Many years ago at Christies in Phx when clubs still had actual candles on the tables. This was before the battery powered flameless types now. A girl was giving a table dance to a guy seated next us. As she flipped her hair around, it caught fire. She didn't realize to it at first and kept dancing. Once she did, she screamed and went running for the dressing room while trying to put it out. Big hair and Aqua Net were popular back then.

Gotta love the photos of Blondebmbshell

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She's a stripper. Nothing is strange or makes sense with them.

Is that going to be the "Strip Club Challenge of the week"?

Some clubs still post their nightly roll calls on their websites, twitter or instagram. Maybe founder could add a link to the clubs home page to where the line up can be found. Members could email him the info where their local clubs post the info. When Xoticspot was around you could find the nightly roll calls for most OR clubs. Too bad they shut down.