Comments by BobbyI (page 5)

clubman2: A while back we had a thread asking "who is going to win?". The OP made it very clear that the question was not "who do you want to win?" Now to someone rather neutral and objective like me it wasclear that McCain had no realistic chance. Nevertheless we had a number of McCain supporters chime in that they, realistically, thought that McCain was going to win. For real. You see they wanted McCain to win, so grasped onto any evidence, or argument that he would, and ignored all evidence to the contrary. They just could not see the world for what it is. Rather they saw it for what they wanted it to be. Same thing, I'll bet with their "friendships" with strippers here. They'll look at the slivers of evidence that they really are friends (e.g. "she says we are!"), but ignore the overwhelming evidence that they are not (e.g. they still have to pay). These men want to believe it so badly that it distorts their objectivity. It's what is known as a "confirmation bias" and is quite amusing. Now as for me seeing the world in "all black". Dude, I've dated ex-strippers, and believe me I never bought dances from them, and definitely did not pay them for sex. That'll make it a zillion times harder. The ones here who truly see the world as "all black", but don't even know they do, are the guys here who go to strip clubs so much that they have been conditioned to think that paying women for sex/companionship/whatever is normal. Even worse, are the ones who have come to think of strippers as "just like any other women". Let me tell you, normal women are much better. To say they are just equal to strippers is to have a really bleak/cynical view of the world.

Nearly all strippers have it in their "minds" that they are better than customers morally. They think that paying for dances/sex is immoral and hence customers are real sleaze bags. Now, of course, they won't admit this up front, but dig around a bit and you'll learn the truth. I know you'll think this is kind of odd since they are the ones who sell dances/sex but, don't worry, they have a million reasons to rationalize whey although buy such things is immoral, selling is not.

"Classic FWB" Um, actually that would involve never paying, but it just shows how distorted reality becomes to some of those who over do it if he thinks that is a "normal" type of friendship. These girls really seem to have some you guys going. It's funny. (P.S. Your story is pretty hard to believe, and you are probably omitting some crucial parts (e.g. perhaps the "sometimes you get some" is after you just spent a ton of money on gifts for her?). But even if that isn't the case then it should be pretty obvious that it's just to insure you keep spending during "office hours" as you put it.)

I fear that many are so caught up in the fantasy or have become so corrupt themselves that they can no longer see the reality of the strip club world. No girls who suck your dick for money are not your friend. No they are not just like women working any other job. If you can't see that: then you've been hanging around strip club far too long.

Sorry that you are jealous of anyone who is a heterosexual, parody. You really oughta just get over it.

parody are just mad because the anti-gay marriage laws failed so now you and MisterGay will just have to continue dating?

Yeah people are people regardless of occupation. Which is why ozy would be overjoyed if he had a daughter who decdided to be a stripper. And 10x as overjoyed as that if she was one who fucked her customers.

Guys it's simple: - parodyman--> was born a fucking faggot; - parodyman--> is a fucking faggot; - parodyman--> will always be a fucking faggot.

It's virtually impossible if you are a customer and you don't get out of that mode with her early.

MisterGay is going to lose. Again and again and again.

" a bad night for gays" Guess that's why parody and MisterGay are so quiet.

I'd say it's a pretty safe bet to say that MisterGay qualifies as foolish.

Yeah, "wanna dance?" is usually a bad sign. Then there are the game players. You'll give them the look like you are inviting them to come over. Then come in proximity about three times, then when you decide they aren't going to come over, they pop up next to you. These kind will always get a big "no" from me when they finally ask if I want a dance. But the very worst kind are the ones who sit down next to you. Ask you a couple of questions, and then just sit there! Not asking for dances, not talking, but just sitting there. Then they'll ask you for a dance a couple of songs later. "No, thanks." Sit two more songs. "Are you sure?" "Yes". Keep sitting... What in the fuck is this?

MisterGay is just a low IQ kinda guy!

MG: "Please keep in mind that jablake is a self-proclaimed crazy person" Be very careful about MG claiming anyone is a "self-proclaimed" anything. I would double check that "fact". In any, MG is a short-bus rider, so ought to take the advice of people in glass houses not throwing bricks.

Whether it is Obama or McCain or Tuesday, one thing is 100% certain. That is, that on Wednesday, we will still be able to say, (as always)... MISTERGAY LOSES AGAIN!

jablake: "Hell, why not take the profits from the fast food industry and give those to Alaskans. Everyone should know that fast foods are probably more deadly than mood altering drugs! I *hate* fast foods and actually wouldn't mind too much if the nit wit government waged war against them. " Completely agree! Write-in "jablake" for President!

Good link, MG. I think the best spin the Repubs could put on that one would be that McCain is more of a "maverick" than Obama. 81% party unity McCain vs. 96% Obama. Of course, that one would probably just blow up in their faces, since McCain would then lose support with the Repbulican base. MG: "It's a shame that a lot of 'conservatives' in this country have only half-truths & outright lies to "back up" their blind, ideologically-based opinions. " Yeah, like liberals are any better.

I've always wonder about that "voted with Bush 90% of the time" thing. It could be lying with statistics. I wonder what % of the time Obama voted with Bush? I wonder what % of legislation is just no-brainer stuff that pretty much everyone agrees with, and what percentage is stuff that is actually contentious. If Obama's number was > 50% then someone could "lie" by saying "correctly" saying "Obama himself agrees with Bush more often than he disagrees". how: Thanks, I like your posts as well!

That MisterGay guy! He be losing every time now!

AN: Excellent points. I think both the liberals and conservative have valid points, and the trick is not to take things to extremes. That's why I'm pretty centrist myself. I don't want too much socialism nor too much capitalism. A true "swing voter". Now getting back to your post: I believe that part of the reason things didn't turn out the way Marx predicted, was, in large part, though not completely because society moderated toward socialism in response to his philosophy. It was better that than risk a complete overturning. In fact, many hardcore Marxists dislike their socialist breathen for precisely that reason: They would like to see unbridled Capitalism because they know that would be less palpable to workers, and, according to this theory, trigger the revolution they dream of. According to them socialism is just delaying giving Capitalism the rope it needs to hang itself. (So, ironically, a truly hardcore Marxist would like to see massive deregulation, and maybe a flat tax, because in his or her mind it would speed "the revolution".)

MG: "The same ole, same ole from a tired troll with nothing better to say...<yawn>... " MG talking out aloud about himself. I guess MG has totally lost it now. That's what happens when... MISTEGAY LOSES ONE TOO MANY TIMES! LMFAO.

wikipedia: "Trotsky developed the theory that the USSR became a degenerated workers' state after 1923, based on a bureaucracy which was not an inherited ruling class but instead a recruited caste similar to the feudal clergy." + "Trotskyists after World War 2 described the states created through USSR occupation as well as through guerilla movements in Yugoslavia, Albania, China, Cuba, and Vietnam as deformed workers' states, since they did not result from the degeneration of a democratic workers state but were politically dictatorial from the beginning." Sounds pretty accurate to me.

RomanticLover up to no good?

I'll translate MG's "GaySpeak" for the rest of us: GaySpeak: "No, you really wouldn't troll...you're just trying to prolong this pointless back-and-forth...no more troll feeding here...bye-bye now..." English Translation: "BobbyI called my bluff. I have no such evidence. I was talking out of my ass. MISTERGAY LOSES AGAIN, but runs away claiming victory."