Comments by Raincoat (page 6)

Thanks for asking, Wondergrl5. If dancing isn't strength then find what makes the guys sit-up on their chair and go with that. Remember, most of us came in to get cheered up or to escape our lousy existence. Just act interested and look at us like you want us. Crawling towards us like you're going for our zipper is a huge turn-on. You may not like hearing this, but what we want to see most is you flat on your back and your pussy moving slowly about an inch from our nose. Fancy one-of-a-kind move aren't essential but toe or any body part (even hair)that dangles off the stage and touches our dick will almost surely get our attention. Some girls roll over on their knees and give a good ass shot - that's a nice finish. The whole rubbing tits on our forehead or creative dollar taking is boring. Good luck with your new job. The fact that you care what we think ensures that you will be successful. Are you going to tell us where you're workin?

For good mileage at fair prices you can't beat One Step. Ask the price first, and keep insisting on the $10 dances. Don't let them talk you into $20, no matter what they promise. You can also have fun at some of the part-time fashion show clubs. Their is one on Lake Street near 90/94 and two on the 4500 block of South McDowell. There are rumors of one on the far west side that gets wild and crazy, but haven't found it and I think that it doesn't rev up until very late at night. Please let me know if you anyone has info on others.

Nude dancers look absurd with shoes. I find it very sexy to see a dancer without anything on, not even shoes. Admittedly, I get turned on by a well pedicured, high arched, dainty foot, but there is more to it than that. Naked with shoes just isn't natural. Barefoot or maybe flip-flops add to the youthful look. I remember a dancer at Roxy's explaining that even in her Catholic school girl uniform the management wouldn't let her wear saddle shoes. She had to wear stripper shoes. Sometimes its management's strict adherence to preconceived notions that prevents the girls from being fun and creative.

What is the "Pink Site?"

Casual Guy, as a TUSCL member you have a responsibility to follow through on offers like that so that you can share your experience with us. Never say no until you get the information, just ask what will happen and how much it will cost. Mardis Gras nights at Daisy Dukes and Lumber Yard encourages female customers to roam around collecting beads. Flashing of T&A, Mini Laps, even some stick shifting for a couple of $1 beads, all in clear view. One time at a club in Mt. Joy, IA I saw a couple of female customers take a male customer to the back so that a seasoned stripper could teach them about giving lap dances.

Wow! Officer's review is the most comprehensive that I have read to date. I like the concept, especially from someone with his experience but I'm glad that I don't have to wade through that much information from less informed reviewers.

Response to Fondl: Fat or ugly female customers getting naked are still a very welcome diversion. Fat or ugly strippers are a completely different matter.

I am outraged by the treatment that Dark.Innocence received. She should absolutely have the right to enter the establishment so that dancers can strip off her clothes and fondle her for my viewing pleasure. Dark.Innocence, do not tolerate this injustice. Fight for your rights.

When traveling it would be nice to have information about specials and special events. Daisy Dukes isn't my favorite in QC but it is on Mondays when they have 2-4-1's. Gold Mine is my least favorite club in Des Moines but I sometimes visit on Wednesday when the accept armbands from other clubs. Amateur Nights, College Co-eds get in free nights, Lesbian Cheerleader Nights, Mardis Gras nights are all special events that will influence my decision to choose one club over another. Easy access to that information would be very helpful.

I really like Snowtime's assessment. I just wish everyone, especially first time posters, could read it before they post. Numbers do matter more than most of you believe, especially for clubs with fewer than 12 reviews. I agree that the review matters more than the rating. However, reviews get buried by after while and the rating takes precedence. For example, I'm planning a trip to L.A. next month and of course I've been doing my research on TUSCL. With 50+ options and 1000+ reviews, it's tough to decide. Thank goodness for TUSCL or I could easily waste time at a rip off joint. I'm able to narrow it down, but the options vary widely. Hawaii Theater and SR in COI look exceptional but I'm thinking that the ratings are inflated by rich people. After considerable time reading reviews, I've decided to spend my limited resources at the Flamingo in Anaheim. But it took a lot of time to arrive at that decision. I just think that consistent ratings that follow Snowtime's assessment would help make TUSCL even better.

Bones, why doesn't that stuff every happen to me? How do you find these places/girls? A face rub sounds like fun. How 'bout letting the rest of know how to get some of that action? You're our hero!

All other things being equal, I'll take young every time. Other things not being equal, I'll probably still opt for young. When an 18-year-old coed wants to sit in your lap, it's usually money well spent.

I can't tell you how many times I have not gone to club only because I knew the smell of smoke would cause trouble with Mrs. Raincoat. If the ban is inforced, I'll be spending a lot more money in local clubs.

I think that barefoot girls are part of reason that amateur nights are so popular. I just wish some clubs would capitalize on their youthful dancers. It's like its part of a coed costume.

DougS, you have a point regarding things that you don't see that often. That is one reason that I would like to see some clubs experiment. Footwear would be a good place to start since after their first minute on stage it is often the only thing that they wear. I remember a dancer at Roxy's complaining that she had saddle shoes to compliment her Catholic school uniform, but the club forced her to wear heels. That's a shame. Clubs with young dancers should capitalize on their talent and let them dress young. I can see 35-year-old silicone enhanced strippers in heels almost anywhere. But show me some young babes in flip flops and a short skirt and I'll drive cross country to see that. Tuxedoes in Davenport has lots of young talent and I think they should experiment with a co-ed night, or a flip flop night. Hell, why not just go with a foot fetish night. Charge us PL's for the opportunity to give girls a foot massage.

High heels are sexy because the heel is phalic. However, I would like to see clubs experiment with other options. I don't like amateur nights when the girls wear stripper shoes. I want those fresh young girls to look like fresh young girls. I prefer it when the dancer takes her shoes off during private dances, especially those few girls that know how to use their toes on your dick while they're rising up to rub their tits in your face. A shapely well pedicured foot is very sexy, and I think sexier without the "fuckme shoes."

Just where is the cutoff? Anytime your dick is out - it's an extra. If your zipper is down but your dick is inside your underwear - that's very high mileage. If your zipper is up but she uses her hands, tits, or mouth to get you off - that's high mileage. If your zipper is up, she doesn't rub one out for you, but you get to feel her up - that's still high mileage.

gt80rider please explain how the swingers can have open sex without the male getting nude.

I'm on board with David120 who likes clubs where female customers get naked. This is common place at clubs in the Lumber Yard chain and at Beansnappers near Appleton, WI. I've heard that Saturday nights at PT's in Centerville can result in girlfriends pleasuring their dates within view. I'd like to hear more about clubs with impromptu nudity.

One thing that would help a lot would be consistent use of the dollar sign. Many reviewers use $$$ to mean "expensive." In fact $$$ should mean $300. $$$$$ should mean $500. Get it? I'm surprised by the number of seasoned reviewers that make this mistake. The quality of reviews has improved since founder has changed his instructions for reviewers. No more of that "the bar is on your left and the stage is on your right" stuff. I know that many of the regular reviewers are high fliers with lots of money to spend. I'm happy to know about their experiences in case I ever win the lottery. Until then, I am looking for information about how to get more for my money. Let's face it, the strippers are trying to get as much as they can for as little as possible. So let's band together and let each other know how to get more for our money. Value is important to many of us. Otherwise Silver Bullet and Hip Hugger with their high quality $10 dances wouldn't rate so well. I need help finding dancers that give good mileage. You don't have to go into great detail, but I really don't think that "Brandy sent me home happy" is going to get a club shut down. I always use value as part of my rating. Frankly, I'm surprised that my ratings system hasn't caught on with more of you. You might recognize it: Facility Quality: 10 Dancer Quality: 8.5 Private Dance Quality: 9 Mood: 7 Value: 8 Avg Rating: 8.5 (so I enter 9 for my rating) This system helps to equalize what is important to an individual reviewer. College kids are going to look for high points for "mood." Traveling businessmen probably want high private dance quality.

Most clubs are too dimly lit so I first checkout the lighting to see where I will get the most light on stage for viewing pink. Some clubs are so dark that you might have to depend on over the shoulder lighting from a beer sign or television. I prefer perverts' row at nude clubs or clubs that allow contact at the stage. At other topless clubs I tend to sit in the second row from the beginning. At many clubs the girls will not ask you for a private dance if you are at the stage, so when I am ready for a dance I'll move back to a table where I can enjoy their sales pitches before making my selection for a private dance.

About 25 years ago fashion shows started appearing at regular bars in Chicago. Occasionally they would be advertised by a simple poster in the window but generally you had to find out by word of mouth. In the early years girls would come around and show you their outfit. You would buy a raffle ticket and at the end of the show you might win something: the lingerie they were wearing, a garter, maybe a free drink, and sometimes porn. The girls would travel from one bar to another putting on 2 or 3 hour shows. More recently they stopped showing you their outfit and started giving you something more like a lap dance for a fee. Municipalities would sometimes bust the shows. This seems odd, but if they were not wearing pantyhose the girls would be charged with prostitution. The traveling shows found homes at certain bars and the girls quit traveling. The bars in Melrose Park, IL are well documented on TUSCL with One Step being the only one that doesn't require pantyhose. There are a couple of bars that still have girls on a part time basis. The only two that I know of are in the Back of the Yards neighborhood on McDowell Ave. near 47th and Ashland. One has girls on Wednesday and Friday afternoons. The other on Thursday and Saturday evenings. In the Chicago tradition, these place operate almost like a speakeasy. Dress like a construction worker, try not to look like a cop and shouldn't have any trouble getting in. I love TUSCL but I think that it is best that we not post these bars. Too much attention will get them shut down. If anyone else knows about other "fashion show" bars, please let me know by e-mail.

I was kicked out of the Bear Chest in Beloit, WI. One of the dancers was sitting in my lap. We were having drinks and generally having a great time. Late she was sitting in someone else's lap, order a drink and told the waitress that I would pay for it. When I refused the bouncer kicked me out.

I assumed that everyone is familiar with Thai Massage. If not this video might give you an idea what the bachelor might expect on stage, except of course that he would be wearing pants or shorts. http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=Thai_Body_Massage_.wmv

OK, OK, We all agree that beatings aren't fun for anyone. BJ's on stage aren't going to happen, but the concept of giving him a taste of what he'll be missing is right on target. Let's give the dancers and owners some real viable ideas about what we would like to see. Getting the guy wet is a good idea because he won't be unnecessarily embarrassed if the sensory overload causes him to blow his load. Not all clubs have showers but they could take off his shirt, make him lie down on his back, throw a bucket of soapy water on him and girls could take turns giving him a Thai Massage.