Comments by Ironcat (page 10)

I agree at PP in South Carolina that this is common, but the key is to never assume anything. I always ask what is allowed and how much do you charge, then I negotiate from there. Let's face it - this is a business transaction - once past that, then the fantasy can begin.

I've only pre-paid a couple times and it always made me feel uneasy (although both dancers did a good job). I remember I didn't leave an extra tip when I paid up front. That is why I like sticking to dancers that I know.

I agree that if you have nothing to lose, giving a dancer your name is Okay, but I would have much to lose so I have a club alias. I took it on about ten years ago when a dancer asked me my name a few days before Chrismas - and I said Chris was my name. Now dancers see me and remember that name. I figure if I am ever with my wife and kids and a stripper says "Hi Chris" I can claim mistaken identity. Besides the dances don't care what our name really is - as long as our last name is cash.

I'm with the "I'm waiting for someone" approach. I use it as soon as the undesirable dancer approaches. Usually it works right away and the dancer moves on. On occasion, a dancer will say "well who are you waiting for... I'll go get her" to which I reply "That's OK she knows I'm here". That usually keeps them from bothering me the rest of the night. I also don't believe rejecting a dancer causes other dancers to shun a customer - after all they are interested in making money.

I'll lay odds that this "guy" isn't a patron at all, but one of the bad attitude dancer posing as a customer. Think about it, when would a customer feel like the dancers aren't making enough?

I remember a customer having a similar experience in my favorite club, and he proceeded to go from table to table telling everyone in the place what had just happened. He came to my table and said "hey, I just wanted to give you a heads that a dancer named .... just tried to rip me off" and then pointed her out. I thanked him for the info and he moved on to the next table. I bet it was a slow night for that ROB.

Negotiate before you go in and get an up-front agreement about what you expect, what is off-limits etc. - if the dancer is evasive, abort the mission and move on to the next dancer. This is still no guarantee because she could be lying, but at least it minimizes the chance of a bad experience.

Any club on the block on Baltimore except the hustler. I never saw such seedy place and they overcharged us for beer.

I enjoy a dancer to rub my balls and gentlely squeeze, but not hard. I once had a dancer bite my dick so hard she left teeth marks - that wasn't cool. Could have been the type of girl described by Wallanon.

I once had a rather homely and obese dancer approach me with an offer "for $60.00 a song we can go to the VIP and you can eat all the pussy you want". Naturally I declined, but I couldn't help wonder if anyone would take her up on such an offer.

I agree with Drippy - I never give my real name or tell dancers what I do for a living because I want to keep this fantasy life separate from my real (married with children) life. I enjoy the "hunt" for just the right dancer as well as the physical contact. I never go over the line and do anything that could come back to haunt me, but this secret part of my life is something I look forward to. On the otherhand, I would never trade my real life for this fantasy life if given the choice.

PP is my "home" club and I have been going there regularly since it opened. The bouncers never seemed to be overly aggressive here. I just think the guy charged made a bad choice. If the guy refused to leave they should have called the police (I bet threatening to do so would have made the patron think twice). Unfortunately only bad can come from this - the law may target PP and try to shut it down like they did in Memphis.

I had one dancer who asked for a tip after I cut a dance short because I had a happy ending. I gave her a $10 tip and she asked for more. When I said that was all I would give her she acted all indignant that I had "nutted all over her ass", but that was the only time a dancer had a negative reaction. Most of the other dancers don't seem to mind and some actually seem happy that they turned me on so much I came.

I agree that this political bullshit is not what I am looking for on this site - no one is going to have their political view changed by some neo-con rant.

My preference is a relatively thin (but not eating disorder thin) dark haired lady with natural C-cup on top and a toned athletic booty. If she has blue eyes and fair skin, that is a bonus. I guess as Ruskin once said "matters of taste are beyond dispute", but I suspect that there would be a lot of guys that would like this look in a dancer.

I have been spoiled by my favorite, hometown club, so the low mileage, even with 9's and 10's wouldn't do it for me. I even find it hard to make the transition from one club that allows two-way contact to a club that only allows one-way contact. It just defeats the purpose of going to a club.

Saw a dancer on stage that looked good but when I went back for the LD noticed her skin was dry like alligator skin and her breath smelled like puke. Needless to say I stopped at one dance.

Good one...had me going until I saw the link.

Getting extras is pretty high risk with all the sexually transmitted diseases out there. I think you would find that many guys that frequent strip clubs won't really cross the line for that reason. I am a happily married man and the last thing I would want to do is bring home an STD to my wife. I do like a good grind and lots of contact, but beyond that my junk stays in my pants.

Lately I have been alternating between two clubs and one called "Nepals" is actually a much higher-end club that the other (Platinum Plus). The biggest difference I see is that the bouncers at Nepals are huge individuals about the size of your average pro football middle linebackers. They seem a little more laid back than the guys at PP. Of course Nepals is a private club which may be comparing apples to oranges, but they never seem to have any problems at Nepals.

I have to agree with Electronman - you don't have to be specific but naming the dancers that provided an enjoyable dance is Okay in my book. That doesn't necessarily mean she provided extras - it may simply mean that she looked good and provided good contact, etc. I find this useful to have recommended dancers for my favorite clubs and am happy to return the favor to others that frequent this web site.

It really comes down to some dancers seeing a tip as something they are entitled to just for being in the club. At my favorite club, dancers who don't even do stage dances come around and ask if I want a lap dance (no sitting down and having a conversation, just the "wanna dance" routine)and then want a tip after I politely tell them "no thanks". In my opinion, a tip represents a reward for excellent service. Even in the restaurants I frequent, some waiters and waitresses expect big tips for bad service - it could be a general "entitlement" attitude that the younger generation has these days.

My favorite club is high mileage, but I have met dancers who have been able to maintain limits as to how far they will go while still providing good enough service to make money. I think if your wife is up front about the ground rules and is relatively attractive (which I'm sure she is) she can avoid the pitfalls that many dancers encounter.

If I don't know a dancer I will not share personal information regardless of how good she looks. There are too many psychos out there and living in a somewhat small community, I would never want my employer or family know of my hobby. If pressed, I just lie, which doesn't bother me in the lest since I know the dancer's name isn't really "China" or "Naughty". They probably want anonymity as much as I do.

When approached by a dancer who wants 30 or 40 $ per dance I usually counter offer 2 for 30, they usually counter with 2 for 40, and I tell them I'll give them 2 for 30 plus a 10 dollar tip if the dance is good. They usually agree and I always get a good dance. Kind of like insurance. I have also noticed that when you decline some dancers they rapidly drop their price. I agree with Shadowcat, let the market establish the price (assuming the dancer has the latitude to set the price as is the case in my club).