More Trump Indictments, now Fulton County GA

mogul1985

Tuesday, August 15, 2023 3:52 AM

Like Trump or not, what is happening is Stalinesque where his Chief of the Secret Police was well known for "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime." What we are seeing is a DOJ and local DAs that are doing the same thing, out in the open, with no care for how it looks or if it is even Constitutional, especially when "high cover" is given to the Biden Mob. The goal: do not allow Trump to win at any political cost. Even Biden is back at the beach, and his "no comment" about Maui sums it all up. This is an offense aimed at every one of the 75M Trump "Deplorable" voters. Trump is just the example of "This can and will happen to you. The beating will continue until morale improves." This DOJ does not care that Biden had all kinds of secret documents from his time as a Senator and VP that he never was allowed to take let along stash them in his garage. Yet, ramming speed on Trump - after 2.5 years being out of office. I found it quite interesting the indictments were posted with all the official indictment info then pulled down as "fictitious". It is taking hours now to do the "official" posting as the Clerk needs to "type them up". Right. S/He is just sitting back with the DA to edit the "fictious" docs now that somehow they were published too soon/ Fulton County is as Blue as NYC and Washington, DC. And the actions by AG Garland with Weiss just reinforces "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime." If this were happening to anyone, especially any former POTUS, my reaction would be the same quoting Bulldog, "This stinks. This is total BS!"

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What is happening is the Country is healing and coming back together though the enforcement of justice. Trump lost and then tried to steal the election. He and his cronies should stand trial and they ought to go to prison. People looking at Hunter Biden only because they have no defense of Trump. It's a childish "WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER GUY" tactic. BIDEN 2024

Nixur68

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9 months ago

Nixur68 you are so right man. Complaining about election results should be punishable by life in prison times ten (unless it happened prior to 2020). And "Equal justice under the law" is such a bullshit concept. Everybody knows that lifelong Washington insiders should be immune to prosecution while their political opponents are destroyed by any means necessary. That's the only way the justice system can remain fair and American greatness be preserved.

misterorange

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9 months ago

This shouldn't be in the Front Room.

Call.Me.Ishmael

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9 months ago

The idea that what is happening now is healing and bringing us together is the single fucking stupidest thing any person ever said. Democrats are the fucking enemy.

skibum609

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9 months ago

'What is happening is the Country is healing and coming back together though the enforcement of justice.' Are you serious or are you trying out your comedy act before you go on tour? Ok it is a little funny but the best comedy is based off of truths and there is zero truth in your claims. Find some new material.

TheeOSU

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9 months ago

One of the indictments is for demanding signature verification Another is for telling his supporters to watch the televised Georgia hearings. Insanity.

mark94

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9 months ago

The Dems had two arguments to enable the cheating in 2020 Anyone who challenged the process before the election was told that no harm had yet been done and so couldn’t be legally challenged. Any challenge after the election was told the election had been certified and therefore couldn’t be legally challenged. The only way to bring a challenge was in that brief window of time when Pence could have sent the results back to state legislatures for review. The Dems told Pence he couldn’t do that and he went along with them. The Georgia indictments rely on a theory that once the results were certified, it’s illegal to question them.

mark94

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9 months ago

^Pence has/had no power to do so.

skibum609

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9 months ago

Here is a description from Jan 2021 of what legislators asked Pence to do, including the legal framework. Essentially, delay certification for 10 days to allow a review by States of improprieties in the vote. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/05/88-state-legislators-ask-vp-pence-to-postpone-opening-and-counting-of-the-electoral-votes-for-at-least-10-days/

mark94

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9 months ago

So, you guys aren't going to move this to the Politics forum?

Call.Me.Ishmael

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9 months ago

I'm here to discuss tits and ass not politics. CMI is right, there is a reason there is a separate forum for this. I'd like to think we (most?) of us are here because we like to go to strip clubs, which was the reason Founder made the site in the first place.

Specialj

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9 months ago

This is classic! The problem with the “its not fair that trump gets indicted” crew is that 1/2 of the people that say “yeah!” are also going to double down and tell you that Pence should have cancelled the election results. And half of *that* crew will double down again and tell you alien lizards are eating babies cuz tha libs.

drewcareypnw

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9 months ago

And it’s bullshit to reference Stalin here. Stalin picked groups of people he didn’t like, had them arrested in the middle of the night, and then executed. Often in the vans they were picked up in. Trump tried to interfere with elections, and DAs are presenting cases for trials, in which he will have excellent legal representation. It’s not remotely the same thing.

drewcareypnw

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9 months ago

I hate saying this because I have many friends that somehow got swallowed up by this cult, but he’s had his fifteen minutes, times up for Mr Trump.

twentyfive

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9 months ago

Unfortunately, he’s going to be the republican nominee. McCarthy and McConnell had a chance to avoid all this if they’d stood up at the second impeachment. Instead, they hoped he’d just go away. Morons.

Hank Moody

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9 months ago

"Don't the Democrats know that Donald Trump is above the law?!?!" The GOP is a mindless fucking cult.

Dqirish

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9 months ago

^ who’s this they you’re talking about, my take on it is quite different, he’s screwed, swindled, and grifted so many folks, he’s lucky to have gotten away with it as long as he has. Let me point out he’s never been honest as long he’s been around, his history of bankruptcies, thefts, and lies is open knowledge. His very first campaign promise was he was going to build a wall across the southern border of the United States, and Mexico was going to pay for it. Border wall is less than 10% complete and Mexico hasn’t ponied up a peso. Let’s move on this guy won election in 2016 only because he ran against someone less well liked than himself, and in the three election cycles since he’s cost the GOP more votes and lost what should have been majority of the Senate, and the House has lost more Republican seats and is now on the verge of losing the next cycle if he’s the nominee.

twentyfive

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9 months ago

Re: Misterorange: guess you've missed all the times the Dems lost POTUS they demand recounts, fraud and election manipulation. YET, that was OK? The day Trump won, Maxine Waters said he needs to be Impeached. If the Deep State is successful, it will be open season on anyone it doesn't want - Stalinesque, Gulags are ready.

mogul1985

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9 months ago

No. (at least at this point) vans won't haul people away and whack them. The methods Stalin used are being used today - I said, "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" is what we are seeing today with MAGA people. 75M voters is a pretty large group of "Deplorables". Lenin though his Oct 1917 Bolshevik Revolution (a VERY small minority of Russia) was a solution to the Tsar tyranny. Instead, look what the USSR became - it started off small. Joseph Goebbels was a master at propaganda and information control. These are just tried and true techniques that work, and have over and over and over. In the late 1700s the Jesuits said "Give us your children until they are 7 and we'll have them for life." I give you Public Education Indoctrination. 1920s/1930s we had the Hitler Youth and Brown Shirts. And yes, my bad for not posting this in the Politics Room. Apologies,

mogul1985

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9 months ago

<Misteorange - MY BAD for not addressing my reply to Nixur68 who clearly doesn't understand how crime families operate - the "Godfather" (Biden Brand) has a lot of plausible deniability and those around him for deflection and protection - Capone went down on tax evasion, not whacking people or bootlegging. Again, my apologies.)

mogul1985

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9 months ago

He did the crimes. Now he has to do the time. Lock him up.

jackslash

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9 months ago

"Trump is just the example of "This can and will happen to you. " Absolutely. This reminds me of the famous poem. First they came for the libelers and sexual assaulters And I did not speak out Because I was not a libeler and or assaulter Then they came for the guys who falsified business records after having affairs with porn stars And I did not speak out Because I was not a guy who falsified business records after having affairs with porn stars Then they came for the guys who illegally possessed valuable highly sensitive classified documents and played a shell game of obstruction to avoid returning said documents and then tried to delete video evidence of the obstruction And I did not speak out Because I was not ever in possession of classified documents Then they came for the insurrectionists that gathered supporters in Washington and told them to go "fight like hell" at the Capitol Building and lied saying "I will be there with you" after failing to convince Georgia officials to "find" over 11,000 votes. And I did not speak out Because I was not a whinny little bitch with a fragile ego that couldn't handle losing. Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me I may be paraphrasing. Look, I have voted R in just about every local and Federal election since Reagan in 1980. Except I did not and will not vote for Trump, ever. I really hope the party comes to it's senses because.

datinman

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9 months ago

^ Oh well vote for Biden then, since Trump is so bad. The enemy of your enemy is your friend, even if he brings about the collapse of our great nation.

misterorange

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9 months ago

re: Jackslash: so Trump needs to prove he's innocent then? Is that how your "justice" system works?

mogul1985

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9 months ago

So very very sorry for America that anyone believes in progressives or Trump. I may hate Progressives and view democrats as being almost as American as North Koreans, but the idea that Donald fucking Trump isn't the biggest piece of shit ever and 100% guilty is just mind boggling. He's a scam artist who is running a Ponzi scheme. I have two words for Donny douche bag - myocardial infarction.

skibum609

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9 months ago

@Mogul Yep, that sounds fair as he has been handled with kid gloves his whole life, let him shut the fuck up and go into court and prove his innocence, BTW if Biden wins , which is very likely blame yourselves for not dumping Trump and start acting like responsible partners in our American experiment in democracy, provide a candidate that takes governance seriously, not like another opportunity to grift for his own benefit, and personal enrichment.

twentyfive

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9 months ago

That’s not what Jack said. Not even close. I agree the dems have been gunning for the orange anus since 2015. To use his term, it’s been a never ending series of witch hunts. But “witch hunt” is not a defense. JFC, he TOLD THE WORLD that he pressured Pence to not certify the electoral votes and prevent Biden from taking office. Who in their right mind thinks that’s not a crime of the highest order? As for the documents case, he TOLD THE WORLD he took them (and magically declassified them) but then they have video, testimony, text messages and lawyer signed docs showing that he directed a conspiracy to defy the court order to return them. Again, that looks like a crime. Innocent until proven guilty, but the proof is right in front of you. Bonus points, there’s no governor’s pardon in GA and unlike the federal cases, the trial is likely to be televised so we’ll all get a chance to sit through this soap opera. Best thing republicans can do is make sure he picks a good VP to run the country while daddy’s in the big house.

Hank Moody

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9 months ago

The former head of counterintelligence for the F.B.I. in New York pleaded guilty in federal court in Manhattan on Tuesday to a single reduced charge of conspiring to violate U.S. sanctions and laundering payments from a prominent Russian oligarch. For the record, this was the guy pushing the Russian collusion falsehood with Trump.

mark94

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9 months ago

It’s never been about The Teflon Donald… “More like 0.1% of regular ass humans the politicians, the religious leaders, the puppet presidents, the rich and powerful, etc etc tricking the rest of humans into fighting among them selves while they rob everyone blind.” ~ SanchoRG, Texas ~ Joined Aug, 2017 “America sucks and needs to be dismantled.” ~ Papi_Chulo, TUSCL, August 14, 2020 ~ White privileged (Cuban) residing in Miami, FL ^ Sad but so true Papi. ~ Warrior15, TUSCL, August 14, 2020 ~ Just a Monger looking for some Action.

CJKent_band

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9 months ago

Everyone needs to get down off their high horse. Nobody is holy and walks on water here, not Trump, not Biden, not the prosecutors. Politicians (people in general) work/bend the system for their self-interest. Trump did it to try and stay in power. Now prosecutors are doing it (although seems like no bending) to put him in jail. Remember a young guy named Mike Brown in Missouri? He was walking in a street with no traffic. Technically jaywalking, anybody here who doesn't do this at times? Got him a cop with a gun on his hip, screaming in his face. Brown reacted in a way that was not smart, but was also understandable. But we had many people saying this cop's behavior was within LE's permitted discretion. Mostly the same people who are now complaining about how LE is using its discretion to come after Trump.

ilbbaicnl

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9 months ago

^ Pure BULLSHIT! Mike brown stole from a store then bullied and threatened the much smaller and older store owner that confronted him over that theft. then poor little innocent 'he was a good boy' mike tries to take a cop's gun and kill him with it is understandable? Spin it any way you want but it still equates to being pure BULLSHIT!

TheeOSU

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9 months ago

The Bragg indictment does seem more political. But the other 3 indictments are all about justice, and showing there are some things you just can't do to undermine our democracy and expect to get away with it.

wld4tatas

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9 months ago

If the US were a democracy in the most straight-forward way, it would have been Clinton, not Trump, who won in 2016. The Dems in New York State got away with gerrymandering the legislative districts, which is dubiously consistent with democracy. The fate of the US doesn't hang on whether Trump goes to jail. There are better people than him already in jail, and worse people than him who will never go to jail. A the core, the US's problem is too much arrogance, a shared failing of many people across the political spectrum.

ilbbaicnl

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9 months ago

Rudy Giuliani was indicted in Atlanta for posting a tweet that demanded free and fair elections. They claim that made him part of a conspiracy. The Atlanta and NY charges against Trump will all be thrown out once they hit the Supreme Court. The Washington/Florida charges will likely be thrown out too, possibly by the presiding judge. In the meantime, we’ll have a year where the Dems will try to silence Trump.

mark94

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9 months ago

"responsible partners in our American experiment in democracy," The only "experiment" is socialism and the Progressive movement that are failing. SanFran, NYC (it was good w/Giuliani) , Baltimore, Chicago, Newark, DC, LA, CA for that matter, Detroit, Denver, Austin, ect ect and so forth - see a "leadership" pattern? 246 years, and the Leftist deniers call America an "experiment".

mogul1985

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9 months ago

Trump loves to say "witch hunt". Except there are no witches, and there is no hunting. It's metaphorical hyperbole. Lawyers working for the federal or state or city government bring cases they think they can win. That goes for Trump as much as anyone, especially someone high profile. Are the Dems out to get him? HELL yes. They'd get any Republican they could and especially a senior one, and the GOP would do the same back. They're politicians, not camp counselors, and they play hard ball. But if you have nothing to get gotten on, they can't get you. On the other hand, if you have all the things to get gotten on, and you're a big deal politician, and you're a dick, and you try to compromise an election, and you fuck a porn star and lie about it, and you fabricate business records, and you get a bunch of yahoos to trash the capital building, and and and... they sure as hell are going to try and get you, because they know they can. Barak Obama probably drank 3 beers and fucked Michelle once missionary style the whole time he was in office. Like him or not, that square motherfucker was squeaky clean and nothing stuck. The GOP tried a little, but dropped it because it wasn't going to land. Trump is a walking target, and so... they are out to get him all day long.

drewcareypnw

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9 months ago

ilbbaicnl, You sure picked a bad example to make your point. Of all the cases of LE overstepping, the Michael Brown incident wasn’t one of them. * The Grand Jury did not indict - the Grand Jury lasted 3 months when most are done in a week or less * The Obama administration justice department conducted an investigation that lasted over 6 months thoroughly looking for a violation of Brown’s civil rights and the police were cleared *. In 2020 the newly ejected black activist county prosecutor

motorhead

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9 months ago

Continued … *. In 2020 the newly ejected black activist county prosecutor reopened investigations and spent 5 months looking at the incident again hell-bent on bringing charges and still couldn’t find sufficient evidence of wrongdoing — Try another example to make your point

motorhead

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9 months ago

Q. What TV show will Trump soon be starring in? A. Orange is the New Black

jackslash

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9 months ago

Still waiting for someone to post either a substantive or legal theory defense for the documents case or either of the two fake electors indictments.

Hank Moody

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9 months ago

This rick has one question for the OP: why isn’t this post in the frickin’ politics room?

rickthelion

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9 months ago

This rick also has a question for the damn dirty apes that have responded: why isn’t your response “this belongs in the frickin’ politics room”? ROAR!!!

rickthelion

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9 months ago

Since indictments are not substantive why would the defense be substantive at this time? Getting an indictment is about as easy as possible, especially in any rigged system like New York or when headed by an Obama appointee or a Democrat. Activist = cheating, lying scum of the earth.

skibum609

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9 months ago

DREW - come on bud. lawyers working for the Feds or the State bring the cases they are told to bring. has nothing to do with winning, especially with more public defendants when all you are trying to do is screw with the 2024 election. The only danger our democracy faces is from the left and that is why the founding fathers in their infinite wisdom made owning guns such an important right.

skibum609

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9 months ago

Clearly, guns are going to have zero relevance in the indictments against Trump. They will only continue to be involved in 40,000 deaths every year.

wld4tatas

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9 months ago

Ski - you’re a lawyer, so I’m genuinely curious: you are saying that state and federal lawyers just sit around waiting for their bosses to tell them to attack someone, regardless of whether they can win or not, regardless of any law. In all cases. Seriously?

drewcareypnw

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9 months ago

The charge of preventing the proper counting of everyone's vote is a stretch. It's been used in the past differently, for voter intimidation and ballot box stuffing. A far-fetch interpretation of how electoral vote counting works is distinct. It's inherent that the electoral vote system can produce different results than direct vote counting. Seems like it will depend on whether a jury is convinced that, beyond a reasonable doubt, there was intentional lying. The pattern is that person A made a highly dubious claim, and person B referred to the claim when asking various officials to not certify voting results that favored Biden. Hard to prove that A and B knowingly conspired. Remember how the cops who killed Freddie Grey got off. Couldn't prove (beyond a reasonable doubt) that the van driver knew he wasn't strapped in. Couldn't prove the cops who didn't strap him in knew the driver was going to give him a "rough ride".

ilbbaicnl

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9 months ago

First, this rick is gonna explain two things about Skifredo to Drew Ape. The thing you have to realize Skifredo went to the worst law school in the country. I’m sure he can fill out divorce papers but he probably does so in crayon. You also have to realize that Skifredo is a complete nutjob. That’s why they only let him use crayons at work. Second, this rick is gonna reiterate his comment that politics belong in the politics room, and Imma startin’ to fell the need to go all wildebeest on something. Anybody know where I can point my Tesla to find the OP, because the OP is soon going to hear a word that chills him to the bone. A word that rhymes with schmildebeest. ROAR!!!

rickthelion

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9 months ago

Recommended reading for anyone who thinks Trump was just "complaining" about election results. 27 Donald Trump election lies listed in his Georgia indictment https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/16/politics/fact-check-trump-georgia-indictment-lies/index.html

wld4tatas

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9 months ago

…and I just got told by a talking lion. Just another day on tuscl! 😆

drewcareypnw

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9 months ago

This belongs in the Politics chat room. People who post in the wrong chat room should be banned from posting for six months, and people who challenge an election and lose on the merits should be banned from running for office for the term of the office they lost plus a year. Looking at you too, Stacey Abrams. That’ll give myocardial infarction time to work it’s magic.

RiskA

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9 months ago

Q. Why did Trump want to build a wall to keep out Mexican rapists? A. He was afraid of the competition.

jackslash

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9 months ago

^Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broderick and that was just fine with you.

skibum609

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9 months ago

DREW - Individual prosecutors have limited power, everywhere. It all emanates from above. My cousin was U.S. Attorney and he did as he was told. Going after Trump is really no different than your superior telling you to go after crack dealers only and leave the cocaine powder dealers alone. It's called office policy and politics is behind it. We have fallen so very very far. People should recall that Bill Clinton admitted to lying under oath in a deposition. That is a felony. There was a movement to charge him gaining momentum to charge him after he left office. President Bush publicly announced he would immediately pardon Clinton after any conviction because in his mind it was all political. Now we have left wing democrats going the other way. I used to work for other lawyers. I got plenty of shitty cases, because as long as they made money why the hell did they care if I was looking like an asshole bringing a frivolous case. These left-wing scumbags don't care about a conviction. This is all about smearing Dumb ass Donald in the headlines in the hopes of picking off independent voters.

skibum609

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9 months ago

The DOJ spent years lying about Trump in n an attempt to stop him from uncovering their corruption. Now, we are told Trump is disqualified from being President because of all the charges the DOJ has brought against him. What are the chances these charges are also lies ?

mark94

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9 months ago

^DOJ lies and Trump lies continually. They both suck.

skibum609

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9 months ago

Rudy says Donald Trump would never have gotten all those indictments without his help, so if he doesn’t get paid he’s going to go to work for DeSantis, who knows, a bunch of indictments might raise DeSantis’s poll numbers.

twentyfive

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9 months ago

Rudy working for DeSantis.. Priceless

elmer

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9 months ago

i'm not going to read through all the comments but take a while guess. The media and government is lying and the left is trying to slander Emporer Trump's name? Trump is totally innocent trump for 2024. Is that the general consensus of the board here thus far?

Estafador

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9 months ago

Biden 2024!

Jasdoit

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9 months ago

nicespice 2028 (I think she'll be 35 by then). Maybe Trump and Alec Baldwin will end up sharing a jail cell. Baldwin will do his Trump impression day and night, and the guards will argue about who's really the most Trumpy.

ilbbaicnl

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9 months ago

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